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    Gyno, estrogen and fat. Anti e's orAI's, help plz!

    Ok, I have a problem. Everytime I do a cycle I get fat build up around the nipples. I know there's a big difference between real gyno and estrogen related fat build up in estrogen receptive areas. I know for sure mine is not gyno, cause it dissapears rather quickly after a cycle (all of it) and I stay pretty lean during a cycle.

    So far I've never had the need for anti e's or AI's. Would a low dose 10mg/day nolvadex solve my problem during cycle? Because the bigger my pecs get the uglier that fat (i.e. false gyno) looks.

    I have plenty of proviron and nolvadex on hand. Should I start with just the nolva (as it works immediately) or combine the 2?

    I'm on test e 500mg/week shooting twice
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    98kg btw. And any help very much appreciated!!
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    Use 20mg ED of Nolva throughout your cycle and you should be fine....add either some letro or l-dex with that and you won't get hardly any water retention.

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    I don't really bloat either, no high bp...just the fat and I eat very clean.

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    If its estrogen build up in your pecs the both the nolva and proviron would help. You say it isnt gyno?

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    Letro can reduce the estrogen in your system by about 96%, liquidex can reduce it by about 85%. You prob want to take the l-dex, because your body needs some estrogen to keep up your immune system.

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    I only have proviron and nolvadex . Nolva should work fine?

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    i would start with 25mg of proviron ed. if problem persists i would throw in 20mg of nolvadex .

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    yes. I get by fine on 10mg ED, but most ppl take 20. And you can increase it if 20 isnt enough. 10-20 ED is used as prevention from the start of the cycle, if you already have a problem you should run it at 80-100mg ED for a week or two, then go back down to 10-20mg ED.

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    It's not a very big problem as it goes away after pct, but nobody want's to walk around with big pecs and small bitch tits as bigger pecs accentuates the those ugly MTF!

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    I guess I'll start off with the nolva as it's very easy on the lipids and almost no side effects

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