**Testosterone PROPIONATE: The ULTIMATE Testosterone!**

[( Ross )]

This just means that there is ALOT of learning and thinking going on here, which is GREAT for a forum's HEALTH.

Good group of bros

[R]

[Liftnainez]

lol true learn as much as you can, thats what i try and do but my post count sucks lol im at the point now that i feel i have a good base knowledge so now i begin to give advice, first couple of months i just asked asked asked away lol and asked again

yea bro.. you will learn something new everyday.. even the smartest people keep learning..

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So what about experiences guys?

Those who have used BOTH Prop and Enanthate/Sustanon, elaborate on your experiences. This is good info.

Alot of people viewing, so let's hear some experiences.

[mwolffey]

i think at first most of the general aas population is anti test, i know i was until i did a test cycle, when you first want to start 99% have misconceptions and uneducated knowledge. Think about it who here was anti test at first?? comon dont hide be honest, but who knows maybe it was just me, but test is my love now a days haha

i dont think most of the people are anti-test, but more so anti-injections

[( Ross )]

i dont think most of the people are anti-test, but more so anti-injections

I don't think injecting is as much of an issue as one would think(For ADULTS)

Bottom line--

You can NOT grow OPTIMALLY without EITHER--Testosterone or INJECTIONS.

You need them both--lol.

[R]

[kdrkid81]

i dont think most of the people are anti-test, but more so anti-injections

this is true as well but if you were set on injections, your first cycle probably didnt include test until you did some research

[Liftnainez]

this is true as well but if you were set on injections, your first cycle probably didnt include test until you did some research

yea i see what your saying..

[Liftnainez]

26 ppl viewing.... its growing....

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Let's hear some EXPERIENCES.

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[mwolffey]

I don't think injecting is as much of an issue as one would think(For ADULTS)

Bottom line--

You can NOT grow OPTIMALLY without EITHER--Testosterone or INJECTIONS.

You need them both--lol.

[R]

i agree...and i now believe that if you are not ready for injections than you are not ready for AAS

[kdrkid81]

i have a question about prop, would it be easier to maintain gains because you do not have to wait 2 weeks to start pct? It has been said many times that these 2 weeks can be detremental to keeping ones gains, the post pct by anthony roberts even suggest that pct should start within a few days of last inject on long esters. so would it be better to retain gains on with proper pct than longer esters??

[( Ross )]

26 ppl viewing.... its growing....

LOL..

"IT"..IT is growing...Muahahahah


[R]

[( Ross )]

i have a question about prop, would it be easier to maintain gains because you do not have to wait 2 weeks to start pct? It has been said many times that these 2 weeks can be detremental to keeping ones gains, the post pct by anthony roberts even suggest that pct should start within a few days of last inject on long esters. so would it be better to retain gains on with proper pct than longer esters??

Yes, you can begin your PCT 48 hours after your last injection, although you should be using an Aromatase Inhibitor for the entire duration of the cycle.

[R]

[powerliftmike]

LOL..

"IT"..IT is growing...Muahahahah


[R]

attention whore. im no longer reading this thread...

[Pinnacle]

Hi Ross..long time no see

~Pinnacle~

[kdrkid81]

yes i know lol im using arimdex and nolva at .5 and 20mg ed on my test e 600mg eq 600 mg cycle right now, no bloat, no gyno lol

[( Ross )]

Pinn, Whats up old friend!

We have both been busy...

[Smak]

Hi Ross..long time no see

~Pinnacle~

Hello Ross. Remember me?

[Liftnainez]

Hi Ross..long time no see

~Pinnacle~

Pinnacle has made his presence.. sup brotha, congratz to the new VERY inforamtive and helpful sticky bro..

[( Ross )]

attention whore. im no longer reading this thread...

It was a JOKE bro..

Just observing that the board is performing at its BEST..

Nothing to do with me bro.

-respect

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[Liftnainez]

yes i know lol im using arimdex and nolva at .5 and 20mg ed on my test e 600mg eq 600 mg cycle right now, no bloat, no gyno lol

how are the gains? what week r u in bro?

[( Ross )]

Hello Ross. Remember me?

Ahh...old times..

I have to admit--I thought about you when I ran my 1st Test cycle..

You were right..

ahahah

[R]

[Smak]

My experience with prop is that I don't gain very much weight. I usually just end up around the same weight and the pain is unbearable for me. Everyday injections also get old. I like my long esters!

[( Ross )]

My experience with prop is that I don't gain very much weight. I usually just end up around the same weight and the pain is unbearable for me. Everyday injections also get old. I like my long esters!

You have some SHITTY prop my man

Prop hits HARD....


[R]

[Smak]

You have some SHITTY prop my man

Prop hits HARD....


[R]

No it was high BA content. It was legit as you can get. No pain = shitty prop.

My body didn't react very well with it. I was usually in pain most of the day. Alot of times I couldn't workout because of it, but I would always inject before I worked out. That's no fun.

[hauss man]

I have ran prop and cyp, the cyp i had more gains and less sides.

The prop was my first cycle 150mg eod,
I didnt run it correct so i wouold like to run it again doing 2 shots a day

[hauss man]

The prop was very painful though

[( Ross )]

No it was high BA content. It was legit as you can get. No pain = no prop.

My body didn't react very well with it. I was usually in pain most of the day. Alot of times I couldn't workout because of it. That's no fun.

That is NONSENSE...

I ONLY use PAINLESS PROP...I will not reveal the ratios, but it is SMOOTH. you should look into HOMEBREWING.

That is simply FALSE.

[R]

[kdrkid81]

how are the gains? what week r u in bro?

Really just all kicked in now but so far 8 pounds of clean mass, this week it really kicked in all exercises on major muscles went up at least 30lbs i must also note that i started tbol 2 weeks prior and ran it to week 6 at 80mg ed, two different sources on the tbol first few weeks were really good last few were not that is when i ran out of the first source and switched to the second

[( Ross )]

I have ran prop and cyp, the cyp i had more gains and less sides.

The prop was my first cycle 150mg eod,
I didnt run it correct so i wouold like to run it again doing 2 shots a day

2 shots a day would be SUSPENSION buddy...we are talkin PROP.


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[hauss man]

I was under the belief prop had a 8 hour life

[( Ross )]

I was under the belief prop had a 8 hour life

Add a "4"

48 hours

[R]

[Smak]

That is NONSENSE...

I ONLY use PAINLESS PROP...I will not reveal the ratios, but it is SMOOTH.

That is simply FALSE.

[R]

Are you sure or maybe you think it's good and it's the var/tbol kicking doing the magic.

Some people don't get pain when using prop. This isn't the case for me. I've only used UGL prop with a high BA content so maybe I need to try something else to change my opinion.

[( Ross )]

Are you sure or maybe you think it's good and it's the var/tbol kicking doing the magic.

Some people don't get pain when using prop. This isn't the case for me. I've only used UGL prop with a high BA content so maybe I need to try something else.

Listen Smak--

I have run Human grade prop, A VARIETY of UGLS, and HOMEBREW.

Some UGLS(Can't mention names thanks to new rules) HURT more than YOU CAN IMAGINE. I am talkin BULLET WOUNDS that IMMOBLIZED ME.

NOW, I MAKE MY OWN PROP. It is painless.

many reputable UG's have painless prop....ask around ..


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Experiences guys

[BajanBastard]

I've used prop 400mg ED 2mls morning 2ml preworkout, results: It took about 2 days for it to 'kick in', prop swells up the muscles that were injected nicely and i felt very pumped in the gym although i was coming back from a several week lay off, forced to abort cycle on day 6 due to intense and painful androgen induced hunger, i ate and 15-30 minutes later felt like i never ate a day in my life. Gained 4lbs of muscle.

[xderekx]

Aromatase inhibotrs and 5A-Reductase Inhibs are effective, although I would never want to remove DHT from my cycle--this is simply foolish.

Big, i always enjoy the discourse.


[R]

so, in a cycle containing prop, you wouldnt recommend taking a dht blocker? i'm not certain if you're familiar with avacor, hair genesis or hair advantage, but these particular hair regrowth treatments come with an oral capsule which contains natural blockers for dihydrotestosterone.
would this be something i should stay clear of while running prop bro?

anyone else feel free to advise

[( Ross )]

so, in a cycle containing prop, you wouldnt recommend taking a dht blocker? i'm not certain if you're familiar with avacor, hair genesis or hair advantage, but these particular hair regrowth treatments come with an oral capsule which contains natural blockers for dihydrotestosterone.
would this be something i should stay clear of while running prop bro?

anyone else feel free to advise

I am not predisposed to hairloss, and DHT has NUMEROUS benefits for a BODYBUILDER.

Furthermore, DHT is responsible for LIBIDO, so be prepared for a loss of libido when you runa 5-AR inihib.


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[WEBB]

well i do not know ross personally, but i was an enanthat eonly man for a long time, but after a few recents runs with prop at good doses i will prolly never run any other test ester ever again.....i gained a good 11 pounds with 125mg ed and 600mg weekly of deca , with out the water and my strength hit hard and fast and kept increasing through out the entire 11-12 weeks cycle....how ever i got sides from it...backne, and moodyness like a 13 year old girl on her first period...so i agree with the prop being a way better choice, but the sides are still there dude....