cycle advice

**jack000** · 02-06-2006, 07:41 AM

What do you guys think of this as a bulker

Anapolon 50-50mg ED-WK-1-4
Test suspension 50mg EOD-WK-1-4
Sust 500mg a WK-WKS-1-12
Nolvadex 20mg EOD-wks-1-12

Thanks!!

**Kale** · 02-06-2006, 07:44 AM

Is this your first cycle ? How olds are you ? What is your workout experince?

**marcus300** · 02-06-2006, 07:46 AM

suspension is better to take 2x daily

***SPIKE*** · 02-06-2006, 07:46 AM

As a bulker I'd change around a couple of things. If asking for yourself then flip back to Kales questions. After those are answered we can commnet on if this is right for you.

**magic32** · 02-06-2006, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Is this your first cycle ? How olds are you ? What is your workout experince?

Bump and what are you're current stats?

M.

**jack000** · 02-06-2006, 08:12 AM

I am 21. 168lbs. Been doing roids for nearly a year now. Im always bulking as im not happy with my size yet. iv worked with test depot, sust, deca , winny, dbol in the past.

Regards

**Kale** · 02-06-2006, 08:15 AM

Thats a lot of juice for 168 lbs bud. Are you eating and working out or just juicing ?

**stupidhippo** · 02-06-2006, 08:17 AM

gotta agree with that..

**jack000** · 02-06-2006, 08:18 AM

I am eating loads fella. been training for 2year now. Getting bored of sust mate

( Just heard that it will give me a good kick. My weight always seems to fluctuate and its annoying.

Kind Regards

**Kale** · 02-06-2006, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by jack000

I am eating loads fella. been training for 2year now. Getting bored of sust mate

( Just heard that it will give me a good kick. My weight always seems to fluctuate and its annoying.

Kind Regards

loads of what fella ? Thats the important question. If you dont eat right when you are on cycle you wont get shit out of it, and from your weight I would suggest thats your problem

**hosam4ever** · 02-06-2006, 08:22 AM

suspension should b 2x daily or at least a shoot ed

***SPIKE*** · 02-06-2006, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by jack000

been training for 2year now. Getting bored of sust mate

This is the reason your weight keeps fluctuating. You've only been training 2 years and have been using AAS for half of that time.

Your body has no idea what natural training is. First you need to create a base then use AAS to further that. Now use AAS right off the rip to increase muscle mass. When you come off your cycles your body is just going back to its original form. A form that doesnt have much of a base.

You wont do what I'm going to recommened but I'll list it anyway. Scratch the use of AAS and build a foundation. After you feel you have built the foundation then you can start working on the house. What's going to happend if you build a house without a foundation? In due time it will crash. Hence your fluctuating weight.........

**jack000** · 02-06-2006, 08:27 AM

8.00am-breakfast-eggs, toast, porridge
10.00am- weight gainer
12.00pm-lunch(wotever is on offer)
2.00pm-sandwich
4.00pm-weight gainer(b4 workout)
6.00pm-tin of tuna(afta workout)
8.00pm-supper
10.00pm sandwich b4 bed
3.00am weight gainer

**marcus300** · 02-06-2006, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jayhova

This is the reason your weight keeps fluctuating. You've only been training 2 years and have been using AAS for half of that time.

Your body has no idea what natural training is. First you need to create a base then use AAS to further that. Now use AAS right off the rip to increase muscle mass. When you come off your cycles your body is just going back to its original form. A form that doesnt have much of a base.

You wont do what I'm going to recommened but I'll list it anyway. Scratch the use of AAS and build a foundation. After you feel you have built the foundation then you can start working on the house. What's going to happend if you build a house without a foundation? In due time it will crash. Hence your fluctuating weight.........

agreed

**marcus300** · 02-06-2006, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by jack000

8.00am-breakfast-eggs, toast, porridge
10.00am- weight gainer
12.00pm-lunch(wotever is on offer)
2.00pm-sandwich
4.00pm-weight gainer(b4 workout)
6.00pm-tin of tuna(afta workout)
8.00pm-supper
10.00pm sandwich b4 bed
3.00am weight gainer

id stay away from gear until your diet is in order and for you to get a good solid base from training without AAS.

sandwich b4 bed

**Kale** · 02-06-2006, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by jack000

8.00am-breakfast-eggs, toast, porridge
10.00am- weight gainer
12.00pm-lunch(wotever is on offer)
2.00pm-sandwich
4.00pm-weight gainer(b4 workout)
6.00pm-tin of tuna(afta workout)
8.00pm-supper
10.00pm sandwich b4 bed
3.00am weight gainer

I rest my case !!!! Now compare that to this

Meal 1: Pro/Carb

8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat

Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat

Meal 3: Pro/Carb

Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
**Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.

Meal 4: Pro/Fat

2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat

Workout

Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose

40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat

Meal 6: PPWO

Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat

Meal 7: Pro/Fat

Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat

Meal 8: Before Bed

3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat