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    Ok, gonna do first cycle soon, any advice appreciated

    Hi,

    I am thinking of trying the following cycle, please feel free to critique and provide feedback.

    Test Eth, Dbol (oral) and Clomid for PCT.

    Weeks 1 - 12 500mg Test Eth per week
    Weeks 1 - 4 40 mg Dbol per day (oral)
    PCT Clomid after last pin

    My main concern is safety so I've elected to keep it fairly steady - but open to your feedback.

    Goals:
    Increase in strength and lean muscle mass.

    Stats:
    31 Years Old
    Lifting for 8 years
    80kg bodyweight
    10 - 12 % bodyfat (visible abs all year round - MMA & Jiu Jitsu training aids this)

    Current Lifts:
    3x5 Squats 125kg (ass to grass)
    3x5 Bench 100kg
    1x5 DL 140kg
    WG Pullups with 20 kg weight belt for 12 reps (good form full extension)


    Look forward to hearing from some experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lad
    Hi, I am thinking of trying the following cycle, please feel free to critique and provide feedback. Test Eth, Dbol (oral) and Clomid for PCT. Weeks 1 - 12 500mg Test Eth per week Weeks 1 - 4 40 mg Dbol per day (oral) PCT Clomid after last pin My main concern is safety so I've elected to keep it fairly steady - but open to your feedback. Goals: Increase in strength and lean muscle mass. Stats: 31 Years Old Lifting for 8 years 80kg bodyweight 10 - 12 % bodyfat (visible abs all year round - MMA & Jiu Jitsu training aids this) Current Lifts: 3x5 Squats 125kg (ass to grass) 3x5 Bench 100kg 1x5 DL 140kg WG Pullups with 20 kg weight belt for 12 reps (good form full extension) Look forward to hearing from some experts.
    Welcome to the community!

    This is your first cycle, correct? If so you may want to consider dropping the dbol and moving forward with the test only at 500mg/wk for 12 weeks.

    With respect to PCT, in addition to Clomid, you should include Nolvadex as well and run it as follows:

    Clomid: 100/50/50/50
    Nolv: 40/20/20/20

    You should begin PCT 12 days after your last test E injection.

    Good luck!

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    Also, are you planning to run an AI? I would recommend you do so and look into adex at .25eod or Aromasin at 25mg/ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lad View Post
    Hi,

    I am thinking of trying the following cycle, please feel free to critique and provide feedback.

    Test Eth, Dbol (oral) and Clomid for PCT.

    Weeks 1 - 12 500mg Test Eth per week
    Weeks 1 - 4 40 mg Dbol per day (oral)
    PCT Clomid after last pin

    My main concern is safety so I've elected to keep it fairly steady - but open to your feedback.

    Goals:
    Increase in strength and lean muscle mass.

    Stats:
    31 Years Old
    Lifting for 8 years
    80kg bodyweight
    10 - 12 % bodyfat (visible abs all year round - MMA & Jiu Jitsu training aids this)

    Current Lifts:
    3x5 Squats 125kg (ass to grass)
    3x5 Bench 100kg
    1x5 DL 140kg
    WG Pullups with 20 kg weight belt for 12 reps (good form full extension)

    Look forward to hearing from some experts.


    This link will guide you

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

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    Thanks for the feedback man.

    Yes this will be my first cycle.

    Would you still recommend an AI if i was to go with Test Eth (or another Test blent like Sustanol) and discard the Dbol ?

    The guy that i will be obtaining the gear from only has clomid for PCT.
    Should I try and get my hands on some Nolvadex to be extra safe?

    Thanks again for the feedback man

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsjayman02 View Post
    you need to follow this to plan your first cycle. good luck.

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    I would drop the dbol and run an ai. Get bloodwork at 5 weeks to see how your ai is working. You can get adex and nolva (tamox) from the site sponsor ar-r .

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    Yes run an AI either way.

    Ar-r .com All your pct needs at your fingertips

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    Being based in New Zealand, it can be tricky to get my hands on all the gear you guys have outlined.

    Will certainly try my best to source some Nolva and AI.

    Thanks

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    No HCG ? Usual recommendation is 250i.u. twice weekly throughout cycle.

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    HCG is a good addition to any cycle. From my experience makes recovery much easier and faster than without.
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    Cant get my hands on any HGC or AI.

    Should i flag it until i have access to these or would i be safe to run Test Eth only with Nolva and clomid on hand for PCT?

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    I would wait till you get HCG in hand.

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    good luck

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    You can get your AI from Ar-r top right hand corner banner.And IMOP would just run the test eth 10 weeks.And don't run a cycle until you have everything in hand before you start your cycle.

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