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    Lightbulb Second Stack Need Advice

    This is what the name are:
    Deca -Durabolin 50 mg/ml; Organon; Mexico
    Tamoxifeno 20 mg tab.; 14 Tabs. Astra Zeneca
    Omifin 50 mg 30 Tabs. Mexico
    Sostenon 250 250 mg/ml; Organon Mexico, ES
    Sten 120 mg/2 ml; Atlantis Mexico

    STACK SUPPLY
    This is what I have on hand.
    Deca-Durabolin: 8 Preloads (50 mg/ml)
    Tamoxifeno: 14 Tabs (20 mg tab)
    Omifin: 30 Tabs (50 mg)
    Sostenon 250: 8 Preloads (250 mg/ml)
    Sten: 8 Amps

    Hello Everyone,
    I am asking for help, The above list is what I have in stock. Is this enough for a good stack?
    If it is what stack should I use.
    If not what should I add to the Stack.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Right off the bat...it would help if we had a little more info. How old? Training experience, hieght, weight, goals etc...

    But from what I can see you need more deca and more sust. You have enough deca for 2 weeks and enough sust for 4 weeks. You should be running deca @ 400mg/week x 8-10 weeks and sust @ 500mg/week x 8-10 weeks.

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    Post Here are my stats

    Iím 5í8Ē, 180lbs, Neck 17, Chest 45, Waist 35, Arms 16, Legs 25, Calfís 14.5.
    I have been training since 1979. I competed 5 years natural in bodybuilding.
    I have tried one cycle of Deca (200mg) for 10 weeks stacked with 100mg of Test.
    I did not get good results. Iím wanted to increase my overall size. Iím very knowledgeable about training
    Iím a personal trainer. However, no hands on experience with gear.

    Thanks Dude

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    Those doeses are real low on your first cycle. As pete said, you don't have enough juice for a good cycle right now. Hold on to it until you can get more. 8-12 more sus amps. Try to get 200mg/ml deca ... 20 ml's worth.

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    Question I need more sus

    So you rec. that I need 500mg SUS and 200mg Dec for eight weeks?
    Thank You

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    400 mg of deca a week.

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    yeah go with deca at 400 mg and the test at 500 and you'll be fine. But if u are going to compete again (not sure if u are, thats me not reading the whole thread again ) i'd go with eq instead.

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    Question Tamoxifeno / Omifin

    Thank You Guy,
    Your info. is elping me alot.
    One other question.
    I still have:
    Tamoxifeno: 14 Tabs (20 mg tab)
    Omifin: 30 Tabs (50 mg)
    Sten: 8 Amps
    What should I do with this gear in my stack?
    When should I start taking the Tamoxifeno and Omifin.
    And should I include the Stenin the stack?

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    A sten amp is kinda like 1/2 a sus amp. Since you need 8-12 more sus amps, you could use sten in place of the sus and just get less sus.

    Omifin is clomid... use it at the end. 3 weeks after your last injection. Since you have 30 go with 50 mg a day for a week, 100 mg a day for another week, and 50 mg a day for the thrid week... 50/100/50

    Tamox... is novladex and you don't have enough. You don't want to have to cut your cycle short if you start to get itchy nips and run out of novladex.
    Last edited by arthurb999; 02-11-2002 at 10:10 AM.

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    Question Omnadren & Decanandrolen Fake


    Whatís Up to all my fellow Iron Brothers,
    Just landed some more gear.
    I donít know if itís fake or real. The other stuff I got myself, so I know itís real. After everyone recommends that, I up the dosages. I search for more, I donít know if itís fake or not.
    NEED HEPL!
    Should this be enough to start my cycle?
    I have a bottle of decanandrolen 200 but the bottle has a red cap instead of blue and the expiration date is in 2005. Itís the same one pictured here:

    It says it veterinarian on the back of the bottle. I have one bottle.
    From mexico. Made by DENKALL $200USD

    Alos I have some Omnadren . Listed below.
    I have (10) Amp. $200UDS
    Omnadren 250 250 mg/ml; Jelfa PL
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    I finally ready!
    I started on Saturday. 400mg of Dec / 500mg Sus, I could not get it all in one pin, so I had to do (2) two shots. One for Dec and open for Sus.
    My ass is killing me its hard to sit down. I am going to list starting stats tomorrow.
    I am taking Nitro-tech, (2) scoops (4) four times a day and four chicken breast a day.

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    Re: Omnadren & Decanandrolen Fake

    Originally posted by The Need For MASS
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    I have a bottle of decanandrolen 200 but the bottle has a red cap instead of blue and the expiration date is in 2005. Itís the same one pictured here:

    It says it veterinarian on the back of the bottle. I have one bottle.
    From mexico. Made by DENKALL $200USD

    Does the bottle and box have a matching hologram seal on them(chrome sticker with writing on it)? If so I'm sure it's real, probably a newer packaging. Companies tend to do that now and then.

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    Originally posted by The Need For MASS
    I finally ready!
    I started on Saturday. 400mg of Dec / 500mg Sus, I could not get it all in one pin, so I had to do (2) two shots. One for Dec and open for Sus.
    My ass is killing me its hard to sit down. I am going to list starting stats tomorrow.

    In the future, try mixing 1ml Deca and 1ml Sust in the same pin instead of 2ml of each in a different pin. The Deca will help alleviate some of the pain associated with the Prop in the Sust.

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    I did not get a box with, just the bottle. I did not think to ask for it, how can I tell without the box.

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    ok, next week I'll split it 50/Dec 50/Sus.
    Also I shot it in the same cheek about 1/2 inch away.
    Should I have done the other side?

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    If you didnít get the box with it, how do you know that itís the same as the box you posted? Either way, it should have a hologram seal on it covering the rubberized area that you push your pin through to assure you that it is sterile. Go to www.anabolex.com as well. They have a few more pics of different brands of Deca if you are still not sure. Also if you have a digital camera, I would take a pic and Post it in the Steroid Pictures Forum and let some of the other guys get a look at it. More than one opinion is often necessary when checking the legitimacy of certain types of drugs. Especially Deca!

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    Originally posted by The Need For MASS
    ok, next week I'll split it 50/Dec 50/Sus.
    Also I shot it in the same cheek about 1/2 inch away.
    Should I have done the other side?
    It's good to alternate injection sites to minimize scar tissue and to reduce the amount of oil in one area. In the future, I would ďturn the other cheekĒ, so to speak, but you didn't do any harm by shooting it in the same area. Don't forget thighs and delts if glut shots start to get tiresome.

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    Cool,
    Thanks for your help. I owe you one.
    I am a little afraid to do shoulders and thighs, my buddy is on the same stack and he did the shot. I dont want to screw up the injection. Which site do you belive is the best, for results.

    Thanks again.

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    Doesn't matter. Intramuscular injection is intramuscular injection. Switching sights is just a way of minimizing scar tissue in one area and giving your ass a rest once and a while. Your gonna grow the same either way.

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    Week One
    Neck: 17
    Left Arm: 15 1/4
    Right Arm: 15 1/2
    Chest: 44 1/4
    Waist: 44 1/2
    Left Leg: 36 1/2
    Right Leg: 24 1/2
    Left Calf: 24 3/4
    Right Calf: 15
    Wrist Size: 6 ĺ

    I had a nine (9) month lay off due to an uncontrolled situation. That's why a lot of my measurements are lower than first stated. So my first day of training was Feb 6th, the first shot was Feb 9th. My body is killing me from the lay off. I think that I should have waited a little, to the starting soreness subsides. Well anyway, Iím on my way.

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    Sorry,
    Yes the above are wrong. Here are the correct ones.
    Neck: 17
    Left Arm: 15 1/4
    Right Arm: 15 1/2
    Chest: 44 1/4
    Waist: 36
    Left Leg: 24 1/2
    Right Leg: 24 3/4
    Left Calf: 15
    Right Calf: 15
    Wrist Size: 6 ĺ
    Weight: 178lbs

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    You might want to split up the injections... say one on Sun and one on Wed. It will keep your blood levels more constant.

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    ok,
    That sounds like a good idea.
    Thanks for the tip.

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    ok,
    Here we go. Took your advice, I did one pin with 2ml Deca and
    2ml of sust., Today.
    Next shoot is sunday.
    By the way guys, my weight went up to 181 from 178.
    My first injection site is still a little sore, from sunday

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    Week Four:

    Neck: 17.5
    Left Arm: 16
    Right Arm: 16 1/4
    Chest: 44 1/2
    Waist: 36
    Left Leg: 25
    Right Leg: 25 1/2
    Left Calf: 15
    Right Calf: 15
    Wrist Size: 6 ĺ
    Weight: 185.5
    The only side effect are, that I feel drained every day. Like I have a cold or Flu. The only body part that feels strong is my shoulders (which are my weakest bodypart). But they hurt like hell.
    I feel horny but erection are not real hard.

    I was thinking about adding some Andro-50 for three weeks to kick start the thing. But wanted to check with my brother to see if you guys think that my progress is on sch. or not.

    Also shoul I do any cardio 2 a week, I'm want to decrease my waist size?

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