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    Cycle help, suggestions...

    Okay guys, it's coming about that time...time to start planning out my next cycle. Don't really like where I'm at physically right now. 6'2" a hair under 230 at or around 11% bf. Honestly, feel fat and small. I'm not looking for any miracles, but am hoping for 240's and the bf in the 8-10 range. I have access to just about anything, and money's not really an issue, so let the suggestions come. Last cycle got fucked up due to being stuck out of the country 3 weeks longer than expected. Anyway, gimme some suggestions. No hgh this time around. I was thinking something like:

    fina 100mg 700mg week weeks 1-4, 10-14
    Galenka test 250 500mg week weeks 1-12
    QV deca 300 600mg week weeks 1-12
    winny 50mg 50mg/ed weeks 8-14
    clomid

    whatcha think? Lemme know, changes, or completely something new, open to anything right now.

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    I wouldn't do Fina and Deca in the same cycle. I'd switch it out to EQ , switch the winny to Var and run it like this:
    wk1-4 75mg Prop ED(or even use var at the start here)
    wk6-15 100mg Fina ED
    wk1-12 500mg Test
    wk1-12 600mg EQ
    wk10-15 50mg Var ED

    Personally, I'd run the Fina 12wks-15wks but I don't know your experience with Fina so I put down 10.

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    I've always run eq, and was just thinking about trying deca again...it's been a while. And as far as the fina goes, I don't see a bit of difference from it after 5 weeks, and that last week is close to nothing. I have friends that use my shit and go 8 weeks, growing like a weed the whole time, but it just doesn't hit me much after 4-5 weeks, so i like to split it up. And why the Var instead of winny? Good idea about the prop though...I do have some Virormone amps lying around...

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    Originally posted by broncojosh
    I've always run eq, and was just thinking about trying deca again...it's been a while. And as far as the fina goes, I don't see a bit of difference from it after 5 weeks, and that last week is close to nothing. I have friends that use my shit and go 8 weeks, growing like a weed the whole time, but it just doesn't hit me much after 4-5 weeks, so i like to split it up. And why the Var instead of winny? Good idea about the prop though...I do have some Virormone amps lying around...
    I just mentioned to switch to EQ because of the progesterone problme that may oocur with Deca /Fina combo.

    I suggested VAr mainly because I hate winny, some love it but I've had nothing but bad experinces with it so a biased opinion has surfaced.

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    wk1-8 50mg Var ED
    wk1-6 100mg Fina ED
    wk1-14 500mg Test (may run nile sust instead of galenika)
    wk1-14 600mg EQ
    wk12-17 50mg Var ED
    wk12-17 100mg Fina ED
    Throw some hcg in weeks 16-17 followed by clomid? Oh, and the Var I can get is oxanabol. The stuff by British Dragon. Go with those, or look for the spanish ones? I know there is a pretty big quality issue with the different Anavars if I remember correctly? So what do you think about this cycle? Appreciate the help

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    That looks solid to me. HCG at the end would be a smart idea. I'd aslo extend your clomid by a week.

    I've heard nothing but good things about BD's so I think you should be happy with them. I've never used them myself though.

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    what about running hcg at the beginning as well...kinda help me keep my nat. test production going as long as possible, until the test kicks in? Or maybe just a little prop in the beginning as well

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    HCG in the begining wouldn't be feasible. The Var will shut you down so Prop at the begining would be a better option

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    so keep the 500mg/week sust, and go like 100mg every other day. Don't mind the shots every day, just don't want to be running 1000+mg/week of test, or do I?

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    Originally posted by broncojosh
    so keep the 500mg/week sust, and go like 100mg every other day. Don't mind the shots every day, just don't want to be running 1000+mg/week of test, or do I?
    Yeah, I'd run the Sust from wk 1 and shoot 75mgED of Prop for the first 4wks.

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    can i run the anavar straight through? you think 17 weeks will be toxic?

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    Originally posted by broncojosh
    can i run the anavar straight through? you think 17 weeks will be toxic?
    I think if you can monitor your SGOT and SPGT levels through a bio-chem profile once a month, then you could go for it. I know of a couple of guys that run some 17aa's up to 6 months but they get monitered by a doctor frequently.

    Or you could run 6wks of var at the start, break through wk11 and then continue through to the end. Thta will give you 2 6wk periods with a 5wk break in the mid.

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