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02-05-2016, 01:42 PM #1
Dianabol or Turinabol?
Hey everyone!
I was just about to order a cycle of Test E and Dianabol , but then I started thinking about Turinabol as an alternative. I like the sound of Tbol due to the fact that there's no estrogen or progestin natures. Therefore, lower bp and no water retention in regards to Tbol. My diet is fantastic, my body fat is roughly 8%, i'm 176lbs at 5'9. I want something with lean gains as opposed to "puffy" gains. Will ONLY my diet dictate what kind of gains I will have, or does the steroid matter as well? I.E: If i take Dianabol with arimidex at .5mg EOD, will my gains remain lean as long as my diet is great, or will water retention and fat gain still be an issue, vs. Turinabol.
Bottom line, looking for opinions based on which one will give me leaner gains with a great diet. looking for 10-15lbs.
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02-05-2016, 01:47 PM #2
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02-05-2016, 02:46 PM #3
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if you go with d-bol just go with a lower dose like 20-30mg and you may find there is little if any water retention in my experience...t-bol is weak imho...
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02-05-2016, 07:54 PM #4
Theres definitely more water retention with the use of DBOL . Awesome for a bulking cycle.
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02-05-2016, 08:34 PM #5
Why does everyone put so much emphasis on water retention? Obviously if there is to much there's an issue with your diet, AI, etc. But as soon as you come off the first thing you lose is the water weight...
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02-05-2016, 10:06 PM #6Originally Posted by yeahbuddy289
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02-06-2016, 01:32 AM #7
The main problem is there is no set answer for anything in this game
There are standard proceedures and educated guessing.
Best try each compound for yourself over different cycles to get the best answer.
But as i said above if water, diet and your ai are in check you should be fine with either.
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02-06-2016, 09:51 AM #8
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02-06-2016, 07:00 PM #9
I might do a low dose of D-bol (20-30mg) with a low dose of Turinabol (20-30mg). Would that work well?
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02-06-2016, 07:05 PM #10
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02-06-2016, 10:05 PM #11
Alright sounds like a plan. Won't argue with you guys, that's for sure lol. 250mg Test E 2x week for 12weeks, 20mg D-bol for week 1, then 30mg (assuming good reaction) continuing on for 4 more weeks. 0.5mg Arimidex EOD, 250IU HCG 2x week with test, pct start 10 days after last injection consisting of Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50. If all goes well and bw comes back good after a solid 26 weeks, hop on another bulk cycle possibly
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02-06-2016, 10:37 PM #12
Start your pct two weeks after your last injection. Everything looks good though. Is this your first cycle?
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02-07-2016, 01:27 AM #13Originally Posted by yeahbuddy289
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02-07-2016, 08:51 AM #14
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02-07-2016, 08:59 AM #15
Yes, this would be my first cycle. I just don't want to lose a huge amount of weight after I stop my oral. If d-bol will keep me relatively lean with a lower dose, super clean diet, a high amount of water intake, and an intensive training regimen, then that works for me. I guess I'll just have to find out for myself since everyone is different and we all react differently.
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02-07-2016, 09:12 AM #16
Generally on your first cycle everyone recommends running only test. And if your goal is 10-15 pounds you'll reach that easily with just test. If you do end up running the dbol dont be afraid of the water weight... you'll still be lean as water weight has no effect on your body fat percentage and at the end of the cycle you just end up pissing it out and your left with solid gains... As long as your diet is in check.
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02-07-2016, 09:23 AM #17
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02-07-2016, 10:14 AM #18
NAC is what everyone recommends for your liver while on cycle. Good luck.
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I don't know why people fail to realize d-Bol is a tough oral to dial your AI in on - it aromatizes very heavily, plus test...
Why don't you lay out your revised cycle - include dosages, ancillaries, and pct protocol
NAC is far more superior than milk thistle - and running d-Bol - 2100mgs depending on doseLast edited by NACH3; 02-07-2016 at 10:23 AM.
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02-07-2016, 11:29 AM #20
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