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10-18-2016, 06:30 AM #1Junior Member
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First cycle, 23yo, Test E
I want to get some critique on my first cycle, so that you can make me aware if I am missing anything. Here are my stats:
I'm 23 years old male
5'9" tall
176 lbs
13-14% body fat
This is my 1st cycle, and i want some critique to be the best cycle my first, sorry by languange i'm not inglish.
I've been training since I was 16. I never have serious injurys. I've been consistently training for 2 years now.
My goal is to add a little of lean muscle.
Here is my cycle proposal:
Week 1 to 10: Test E - 500mg per week. (250mg twice weekly) 1 shot Sunday, 1 shot Wednesday that's right ?
Week 1 to 10: HCG - 250 IU twice weekly different days? like 1 shot Saturday and 1 shot Tuesday?
Week 1 to 12: Anastrozole - 0.25mg every day?
I'll take 14 days off after last injection and then PCT with Clomid - 75/50/50/50 and Nolva - 40/20/20/20 (standard, is good for my cycle?), in my country lots of people use HCG after cycle, but i read a lot and i think is the best way during the cycle.
Questions:
1- What you think about use proviron ?
2- Do you guys recomend liver protector ?
Let me know what you think.
Thank youLast edited by PTROIDE; 10-23-2016 at 07:43 AM.
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10-18-2016, 07:12 AM #2
Lose the boldenone , it is uselless.
Basically all your questions are answered in austenites "sucessful first cycle", have you read it?
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10-18-2016, 10:12 AM #3Junior Member
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10-18-2016, 10:14 AM #4
Very well, it costs 4,73€ in your pharmacy.
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10-18-2016, 10:23 AM #5
Personally I like boldenone ,most do not. It each to their own...
tho very mild but usually needs to be ran for a much longer period....
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10-18-2016, 11:11 AM #6
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10-18-2016, 12:17 PM #7
I agree test only with your 1st run to see how your body reacts.But you will grow like a weed if your diet is on.Most run the same cycle twice.No need to add things so early in your use of aas.
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10-18-2016, 04:57 PM #8Junior Member
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hell i change the cycle, what you guys think ?
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10-18-2016, 05:12 PM #9
Take HCG up to 3 days before PCT.
Anastrazole 0,25mg EOD. Is your anastrazole from pharmacy?
Proviron is used before a show, useless for you, unless you want to less hair at the top of your head.
Take NAC for liver, you can buy it as acetylcysteine at pharmacy, or find it at online supp stores. Also you need Vit C while on NAC, and some fish oil caps wouldn't hurt.
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10-18-2016, 05:18 PM #10RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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No offense but this is a waste of you HPTA health.
Your too young to be experimenting with AAS because your body and sex organs are still developing.
Imo scrap any ideas for a cycle and create a new thread in the diet section so we can get you on the right track.
If you were to cycle at this point in your development all you need is test. You can't fill the void of poor dieting with stacking more compounds.
Both nolva and clomid are needed for PCT.
An AI needs to be used from day 1 until beginning PCT. Not after elevated E2 side effects arise.
Hcg should be used on cycle from day 1 until 2-3 days before PCT.
Pinning twice a week for the next 50+ years of your life would really suck. That's what happens when you screw up your natural test production in your 20s.
At your age the less time your HPTA is shut down the better off you'll be in the long run.
Imo you should get your bf as low as possible naturally then run a 6 week cycle of test p while using an AI, hcg and followed by a nolva clomid PCT.
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10-20-2016, 05:33 AM #11Junior Member
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Can i apply the HCG in the same day of the Test?
Last edited by PTROIDE; 10-20-2016 at 05:56 AM.
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10-20-2016, 01:53 PM #12
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10-20-2016, 02:07 PM #13Junior Member
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yes i would do blood work before start the cycle, i will pay for the blood work, where in portugal is a little bit expensivo, so i will do only the essential things are the essentials only this:
1. Testosterone , Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)
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10-20-2016, 02:19 PM #14
You can ask at health center for blood work script. It saves like 30€, hormones is what is expensive to test, then bring the P1 to lab, tell the clerk at lab you want to add some things privately, add this:
Total testosterone
Free testosterone
Beta17 estradiol (there is no sensitive E2 there)
LH
FSH
Dont go to clinic or private hospital, directly in a lab of town center.
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10-20-2016, 03:09 PM #15Junior Member
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thank you
this 5 things cost like 60€ in private lab center, i dont wanna go at my personal medic... so i will do this you said, Beta17 estradiol its not for womens right ?Last edited by PTROIDE; 10-20-2016 at 03:24 PM.
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10-20-2016, 03:27 PM #16
You cannot find any sensitive E2 test in europe.
Here's how much I pay at my lab: this post
You dont need PSA at your age, and prolactin its also not needed. You can try asking for the thyroid tests added to script at health center (TSH, free T3, free T4).
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10-20-2016, 04:04 PM #17Junior Member
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ok thanks i will do the basics, are you portuguese?
what is your lab?Last edited by PTROIDE; 10-20-2016 at 04:13 PM.
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10-21-2016, 02:37 PM #19Junior Member
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10-21-2016, 02:49 PM #20
We'll talk when you are allowed PMs
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