Cycle 4

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 11:37 AM

Well right now I'm on cycle three...My gains haven't been as good as I wanted...I eat like MAD! Train...like there is no tomorrow...and I'm going into week 6 with a 12lb. gain...The only difference this time around is i'm running liquidex though out at .50 EOD and my BF hasn't when up..which is a good thing...My cycle is:

Test400 1-10 400mg
QvEq 1-10 400mg

My first cycle was Sus250 and Deca200
My second was Sust250 only
and now this one...My strength has been better than ever but I just dont see the gains in the mirror..sometimes..but anyway...what do you guys think that my 4th cycle should be...I want more mass! If I could run this cycle over..I think I would have upped the EQ to 600mg and maybe even the test...I just wanted to see if I would blow up on this cycle but I guess not...so anyway...whats next...I'm going with RT gear this time around...Its only a couple of bucks more and sounds impressive!

**gundam675** · 08-03-2003, 12:09 PM

u shoulda progressiely uped the dose of test on each cycle ! also, u could be an ectomorph !

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 12:15 PM

Ecto what?

**TANK01** · 08-03-2003, 12:24 PM

An Ecto is an alien gay from the planet Venus !

Sorry just messing with you.

An ectomorph (endurance athlete) possesses a low body fat percentage level, small bone size, a high metabolism, and a small amount of muscle mass and muscle size.

Eek, glad I'm an Endo/Meso now !

TANK

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 12:27 PM

Noo...an ecto is not me!! I'm about 215..with a BF level of about 17-19%. I have no prob. with gains they are just so slow...I want to know what cycle you would suggest..Thanx!!

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 01:03 PM

Bump...is there a great cycle that you have done that you would suggest? What was your fav. cycle?

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 08-03-2003, 01:10 PM

Eat more and you will gain more.

I would have ran the test at 600 myself. But I guess 250 was the highest before so its ok.

I dont feel enanthate really hittin till about 6wks, so maybe its just beginning for you.

If you want to add in something, throw in 350mg prop a week, thatll get things cookin fast. Or add in 350-525 tren in, that will help also.

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 01:32 PM

Well..here is a quest...my sex drive has been low for the past 4 years...I have no prob. with getting it up..it just I dont need it but once a week from the old lady...could a person with low nat. test need more AS to grow? I'm not mad that i only gain 12lbs. so far..I just want to know what AS to use next time and how much...

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 08-03-2003, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by TheJuicer

Well..here is a quest...my sex drive has been low for the past 4 years...I have no prob. with getting it up..it just I dont need it but once a week from the old lady...could a person with low nat. test need more AS to grow? I'm not mad that i only gain 12lbs. so far..I just want to know what AS to use next time and how much...

theoritically it would be the opposite, you would need less.

thats a broad question though. i could think of 50 different cycles to tell you from that question.

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 01:46 PM

Ok then Billy...What can I do to help norrow it down a bit...I just need advice from the Vets and experts..

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 01:47 PM

bdrt..what do you think?

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 08-03-2003, 01:51 PM

What are your goals really? What compounds are you interested in using?

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 01:55 PM

I believe that Test needs to be in ever cycle...I have never done orals yet either...

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 08-03-2003, 02:04 PM

Ya I meant besides test.

Eq, Deca , Tren ? orals?

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 02:19 PM

So basically Billy..you want me to make my own cycle..ok then I'm intested in Deca ,Test,and D-bol...but if there is others that would produce more gains in LBM..then I'm all ears!

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 08-03-2003, 04:22 PM

Well, its helpful if you could come up with some sort of rough idea that you would like to do and then get some critique on it

I mean I could say

500 test 1-12
600 eq 1-12
50mg var 1-6

750test 1-10
525 tren 1-10

600 test 1-25
450 deca 1-12
600 eq 13-25

1-20 250prop/600 enanthate / 200 cyp
1-20 300 deca
1-20 400 tren enanthate / 350 tren ace
1-20 30mg methyl test prew workouts
1-20 50mg var ed / 50mg masteron ed 60on/6off

lol...that last one was my next

but anywyas, you see my point. It helps to kinda read over the profiles and look at the thigns you think suit yourself in terms of reaching your goals.

A simple dbol /deca/test

dbol 1-6 35mg ED
test 600mg 1-10
deca 400mg 1-10

that would be a good cycle

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 06:46 PM

Thanx..Billy..I just haven't experienced certain gear and I guess I just wanna hear what was the best gear that you have made gains on and such...I'm thinking of Anadrol but i heard that its the worst when it comes to gyno...what anti-e's fight the gyno that anadrol would produce and fina was a thought but the same thing...I'm always going to run liquidex because the bloat is almost not there this cycle like it was with my last one! My girls not callin' me FAT FACE this cycle..thanx again!