New to androgens + everything on me

**caseinate** · 09-19-2003, 11:17 PM

First of all I'm an athlete so anyone with athletic experience relating to AAS please reply.

I probably won't need doses in the range that most bodybuilders take.

I was considering this: Winstrol 100mg per day weeks 1-8
Milk thistle/ALA/TLD
Glucosamine/condroiton/MSM
Nolvadex for PCT

Since diet and training are 80%, I'd just like to outline how I plan to train and eat.

Monday ME Squat
Tuesday ME Bench
Wednesday 4 Reps of sprints (or if too tired then light stuff like farleks)
Thursday DE Squat
Friday DE Bench
Saturday: Plyos (burpees, etc) or sprinting
Sunday: Ball handling, light intensity (maybe med int. cardio)

Diet: It is fairly strict but it isnt mundane, I "generally" eat these type of foods
EXAMPLE
Meal 1: Slow cooked multigrain oatmeal, flax seeds, eggs
Meal 2: Chicken breast, beans
Meal 3: Lean ground beef and stewed tomatoes
Meal 4: Leftovers of one of those meals
Meal 5: Dinner changes constantly
Meal 6: Leftovers from dinner
Meal 7: Flax oil and cottage cheese

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Back to androgens, I dont really want something aromatising since I need to keep lean. Winstrol piqued my curiousity because it will increase RBC count and provides maintainable strength.

I would have gone with EQ yet I cant get a source for it that is within my price range. I could go for anavar , what are thoughts on that? (much more expensive than the winstrol for me)
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Closing, well I'm one of those newbies who has done some research first before asking so that must be refreshing. However I dont see or hear much on use for athletes.

BTW This is the offseason for my sport- rugby. I need to run well and be lean.

**trimunex** · 09-19-2003, 11:25 PM

How about Test Prop/Winny and a good anti-e? Btw, what are your stats, including age?

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**caseinate** · 09-19-2003, 11:29 PM

Im 6' , and my weight fluctuates alot, about 200-205. I am turning 23 in a couple months.

I play openside flanker which is a position where you need to sprint frequently, tackle alot.

I was considering test prop but didn't want to inject so often especially for a first cycle. I know this might sound weird but testosterone seems to be a good steroid for bodybuilders but no so much in my case where I don't really want to gain much weight but be able to train more and have strength/speed.

**caseinate** · 09-20-2003, 05:31 PM

More answers needed please

**LightWeightBaby** · 09-20-2003, 06:58 PM

I would do the test prop, I mean if you are really serious about taking AAS to help you increase you athlectic potential then I do not see how injected would be that big of a deal.

**Bigun** · 09-21-2003, 06:42 AM

Check your PMs mate

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 09-21-2003, 12:05 PM

Stay away from Winny, not good for your joints.

Just do a normal 500mg/wk of test for 10 wks.

**usualsuspect** · 09-21-2003, 12:55 PM

Winny sucks. No further comment there.

You said vascularity peaked your intereset. Just curious as to what benefit that has for a sport???

Eq is a good choice. I ran 400mgs at 10 wks for my first and pleased with the results. I walked away stronger and leaner.

However I popped my cherry in my pre-AR days. Based on what I know now...I would have undoubtfully ran 'test alone' instead.

~US~