12-31-2003, 06:15 AM #1
cancer and steroids plus test level checkups
now that i've been on the sauce for a few weeks now, i've been noticing a lot of talk about cancer and steroids . i've been using this stuff for therapy for my back problems as well as gaining muscle, and am very, very pleased with it. i'd like to cycle again at the right time, however, want to do the appropriate tests first to see if i should. i know that if someone has a cancer, the steroids can accelerate the cancerous growth, that may otherwise not have grown and matured. aren't there some kind of tests (blood or piss) that can say if one is prone to have cancer, and so should stay away from steroids? (i wanna take a test and get the green light and cycle again next year) i just need to know the name of the test, cuz i'm dealing with doctors from the department of veterans affairs, and they are idots. i asked a doctor, and he didn't know, but he was just a dermatologist.
what about test level tests? does everyone do that?
what if i check my test levels 3 weeks after my last shot? maybe the doc would send me home with some test!!!
12-31-2003, 06:27 AM #2
Hmmmm...I'm sure if you go to a specialist they will be able to take your money and test you for a million things to determine whether you have cancer?... Why worry? Does it run in your family, Did you have it before, If you find out tomorrow are you going to stop your cycle? How old are you, Test levels start to drop depending on your genetics after like 24 or 25 if im correct...
Your the first person to mention steroids and cancer in quite a while, I've heard of failing kidneys being the norm...Heart attacks, but cancer? not yet... I never heard of any type of relationship between the two yet... Doctors speculate, and of course you are gonig to get sick if you never come off?
12-31-2003, 06:47 AM #3
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12-31-2003, 06:58 AM #4
I'm not totally sure but I don't think there is a test that you can take that will tell you if your going to get cancer otherwise everyone would have these tests yearly.
You could be at a higher level of getting cancer if you smoke or work around pcb's and stuff but if you are really concerned about getting it from gear best to avoid doing them all together.
Besides there are so many special interest groups out there that will tell you that bbq meat can give you cancer, dirty air from gas engines, lawn fertilizer, etc.
They might be right, maybe not but how can you live your life worrying about everything and weather your going to get cancer down the road or not.
Get regular phsyicals & blood work done from the doc and don't sweat it.
12-31-2003, 07:03 AM #5
Great, So What Kind Of Blood Work? What Are The Names Of The Typical Reguolar Blood Tests? I'm Dealing With Un-carring, Over Worked Doctors From The Department Of Veterans Afairs, And They Won't Do Something Unless I Ask For It Specifically. They Don't Like To Suggest Any More Work For Themselves For Anything Like That Because They Are Overworked And Under Staffed. Thanks, T
12-31-2003, 07:08 AM #6
Hemo,Hema, WBC,RBC,Platelet Count, Glucose, Creatinine, Pot, Chloride, Cholesterol, LDL,HDL, Triglycerides, the list goes on and on.
Most blood work forms will have check off parts on them have your doctor check off all of them.
01-01-2004, 05:54 PM #7Junior Member
Originally Posted by MachZ
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What you need:
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Glucose (if you care)
...and the following for bodybuilding purposes:
Total Testosterone (if not on cycle, otherwise highly elevated; same for the next few)
Bioavailable Testosterone (sometimes called “Free and Loosely Bound”)
Estradiol (specify by the “Extraction Method” or “Sensitive”)
LH (if not on cycle, otherwise highly depressed; same for FSH)
PSA (if over 40)
IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is desired)
01-10-2004, 07:36 AM #8
A blood test can indicate that a cancer may be present, but usually a
biopsy of the tissue in question is done to definitely diagnose cancer.
You may want to think about your family history of cancer. If more
than one family member has had a type of cancer than your chances of
developing that cancer are more likely than a person with a no-cancer
family history. If you wanted a clear picture of how you are prone to
any disease, including cancer, there is genetic testing, which screens
your chromosomes for specific disease markers (a genetic element that
indicates predisposition to a disease).
> Genetic testing can determine whether people have genetic mutations
that predispose them to certain diseases, such as heart disease or cancer.
> The testing can cause emotional problems for people while they wait
for the test results, or when the results confirm the presence of the
mutation, so counseling is often necessary.
> Positive test results do not ensure that a person will get the
disease, just that they have a greater chance.
01-10-2004, 07:55 AM #9Senior Member
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I had cancer and didnt know I had it till they did a biopsy while I was on the operating table, this was a couple of years ago and I think I have some posts on here about it but I went through 3 treatments and im cancer free today but it wasnt cause of the juice because it was a growth i had in my throat that was there for years according to my throat specialist. I have taken blood tests and was sent to the hospital for 4 days for radiation treatment so I guess they can tell when there is cancer cells present but I would also take a full body scan after my treatment just to make sure no more cells were present.
01-10-2004, 12:16 PM #10Member
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The strongest connection is with prostate cancer and the PSA test usually starts to go up very early. Good luck getting the VA to spring for one unless your'e over 50.
01-11-2004, 03:15 AM #11
It is impossible to get one test that will determine whether you are prone to cancer. There are so many varieties of cancer and each of their etiologies is different. The tests that were mentioned are only indicators of whether you already have cancer. And usually its only when a patient has a clinical presentation suggestive of cancer that these tests will be done. But its not a bad idea to keep on top of these when on AAS. This will ensure staying abreast of how your body is handling the hormonal load.
01-11-2004, 03:35 AM #12Originally Posted by sinista63
All of the above is currently possible but very expensive. Insurance won't pay....the VA won't pay for anything....so good luck.
In actuality, family history is the best indicator as well as regular bloodwork. Most cancers will indirectly affect some aspect of bloodwork that will be detectable and raise a flag....not all though. Really though...live your life. If you're susceptible to cancer, there's very little you can do to prevent it. Your genetic susceptibility is the most dominant factor.
There is such a thing as being overly cautious....those people drive Volvos.
01-11-2004, 07:19 AM #13
FYI: if you want to get a PSA, check out healthcheckusa.com. They offer a variety of tests... its all out of pocket, but you can do it anonymously.
01-11-2004, 04:31 PM #14Originally Posted by einstein1905
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