01-04-2004, 04:06 PM #1
Have a few questions.
1. For those who have used it, how did you cycle it? Did you do 2wks on 2 off, or what and why?
2. Why is it suggested that you do not take it for longer than 4-6 wks? besides the hepatoxicity reasons.
3. Since it is mainly anabolic (to my understanding), would it be harsh on the hairline? Would finasteride be useful in combating this?
thanks for any info yall have!
01-04-2004, 08:55 PM #2Associate Member
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Change the Subject to full name of the compound, i think alot of people are not sure what you are talking about. I have not used it, but friends have and rave about it.
1. 4-6 wks on.
2. It is hard on the kidneys and recovery, it is much like a more toxic version of finaplex, as I am told, with similar gains, in both strength and hardness with a slight loss of fat.
3.I am unsure as to the conversion to DHT, as that leads to hair loss, I would imagin as with most AAS, if you are suseptable to hair loss, this will accelerate it.
JMO - sorry for no sound info.
01-04-2004, 09:01 PM #3
i just started a cycle today, i started a thread and will keep everyone updated.
01-04-2004, 09:02 PM #4
01-12-2004, 03:39 PM #5
i've been on now for 3 weeks of a 6 week cycle...
first week or two were the worst... very dry throat...
it eventually got worse to where i got bad bloodynoses and very blood shot eyes... but those sides are all gone now...
I'm not sure if those bad sides i got were from just getting sick or just the m1t or maybe a mix of both...
01-12-2004, 04:25 PM #6Originally Posted by Pinch
01-12-2004, 04:48 PM #7Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
strong increase in strength...
NO lower back pain
dry throat is gone, still get bloodynoses though, but not as much as when i had the bloodshot eyes
also i was running 20mg ED of kilosports m1t
i was running m1t alone, but now i've added more supps (no2, creatine, chromium, l-argnine, vandyl sulfate)... so i'll see how the next 3 weeks goes
overall, m1t rules... i'm 200 lbs at about 7% bodyfat most vascular i've ever been, even more-so then when i ran EQ
before the m1t i was around 190 at 8 or 9% bodyfat... never actually got my bodyfat tested i'm just going by how i look
01-12-2004, 04:50 PM #8
01-12-2004, 04:52 PM #9Originally Posted by dizzle
but right now the bloodnoses only happen if i pick my nose...
but normally when i pick my nose, no bloodnose occurs
01-12-2004, 06:23 PM #10
Finasteride doesn't help with m1t as the molecule is already 5-alpha reduced. BUT I've seen no indication of hairloss from anyone that's been on it.
01-12-2004, 09:21 PM #11Originally Posted by MMC78
01-12-2004, 09:37 PM #12
From the molecular structure alone, to me it looks like a 17aa-Boldonone-DHT
Id think it will be hard on the hairline. Obv live toxicity issues, but I wouldnt rate it much worse than dbol .
JMO from looking at it, I have no factual evidence besides appearence.
01-12-2004, 09:47 PM #13
So, BB, what effects do you think 10mg/day could possibly have on the hairline? Any?
What i am taking is 20mg var ED and 10mg of M1T.
01-12-2004, 09:58 PM #14
I want to see some real results just using m1t, what kind of gains?? how much of gains do people keep?? do u need an anti-e? what best for post cycle.....using clomid??
01-13-2004, 12:06 AM #15Anabolic Member
Originally Posted by Pinch
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01-13-2004, 12:10 AM #16
I've heard (and I'm not a chemist) that it's closest to a methelated primloban. Isn't 17aa boldedone dianabol ?
Vette: most ppl use 20mg a day. Maybe start with 10mg and taper up if the side effects are bearable.
01-13-2004, 12:48 AM #17Originally Posted by 956Vette
01-13-2004, 12:50 AM #18Originally Posted by MMC78
A substance doesnt always act like it looks. Some may feel its like primo, but the structure indicates otherwise.
01-13-2004, 07:34 AM #19Originally Posted by 956Vette
01-13-2004, 10:59 AM #20Originally Posted by CoRnErBaCk24
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