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    My next cykle

    Hello everyone itīs been a while. 2 years now, since i last did a cykle.
    Iīve trained for about 11 years on and off. Iīve done various cykles about 10 total. My latest one was 8 weeks deca 500mg, test enth 750mg and tren 75mg ED.


    My stats are 223lbs, 6ī14" and about 15% bf .

    I would like some opinions on my cykle. Here it goes:
    Week 1-12 Equipose 600mg/week
    Week 1-4 D-ball 50mg ED
    Week 4-14 HCG 500iu every 4th day.
    Week 6-12 Trenbolone 100mg ED
    Week 8-14 Propionate 100mg ED
    Week 8-14 Winstrol 50mg ED
    Week 6-10 T-3 and clen with keto
    Week 1-15 femara 2.5mg ED
    Week 1-17 Nolvadex 20mg ED
    Week 14-18 clomid 300/100/50/50
    Week 14-16 Clen
    Week 16-18 ECA

    Thanks in advance.

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    a couple of things I noticed right off bat. First, why aren't you running the Prop since day one? 2. I don't think you will need HCG for this cycle, especially in week 4. However, it's always good to have it on hand.

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    Pretty heavy cycle,my Q is why aren't you running the prop from the beggining??

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    First iīd like to thank you for the fast responses. Now for some more questions, getting confused about the hcg thingy.
    How should i use hcg instead? you really didnīt tell me that.
    Iīve read on various threads that by using it this way it would help your nuts from shrinkage. And make the recovery pct much easier. Isnīt that true? Pls help me out on that matter iīve really tried to look around for answers but everyone seems to have a different point of view. If i use prop throughout cykle wouldnīt it be a bit too long 14 weeks of the same short acting ester? And finally should i remove the dball if i decide to go with 14 weeks of prop. Because then i donīt need the dballs to get things going?

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    id run a long ester test instead of prop,
    Last edited by symatech; 02-07-2004 at 01:20 AM.

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    IMO...
    I would take out the Prop and add in longer-ester Test. I wouldn't run Keto either, it's pointless to run Keto for 4 weeks. It'll take you between 3 days to a week to fall into Ketosis depending on your carb intake. If you're going to run Keto, run it throughout or near the end.

    I would change it around so it looks something like this...

    Weeks 1-5 - 40mg D-Bol ED (D-Bols a waste and money if you ask me though)
    Weeks 1-12 - 500mg EQ
    Weeks 1-13 - 500mg to 750mg Test Enanthate /Cyp
    Weeks 9-15 - 100mg Fina ED
    Weeks 9-15 - 50mg Winny ED

    Weeks 1-2 - ECA
    Weeks 3-4 - Clen
    Weeks 5-6 - ECA
    Weeks 7-8 - Clen
    Weeks 9-12/13 - T3
    Weeks 12/13 - 15 - Clen
    Weeks 16-18 - ECA
    Weeks 18-20 - Clen
    Weeks 20+ - ECA

    IF you decide to drop into Keto, make the most of it and do it on week 7 and run it all the way through to week 15. Then slowly carb back up, very very slowly, the bounceback from T3 won't be pretty if you take in too much.

    Just my two cents bro.

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    Oh yeah, no need for HCG . Save it for Post Cycle Therapy .

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    Dont use HCG for post cycle, it mimics LH so your body will not try and produce it and your recovery will be hindered.

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    Oh yeah, no need for HCG. Save it for Post Cycle Therapy.

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    Ok iīll save the hcg if my nuts shrink during cykle only. Is this correct?
    And with keto i meant Ketotifen to clear my receptors from clen not the diet keto. But thanks for your input about T-3 and carb intake. So hereīs how my new modified cykle looks with the help of you:
    Weeks 1-5 - 40mg D-Bol ED (just to kickstart things because iīve chosen enanthate )
    Weeks 1-12 - 500mg EQ
    Weeks 1-10 - 500mg Test Enanthate/Cyp
    Weeks 9-15 - 100mg Fina ED
    Weeks 10-15 - 50mg Winny ED
    Weeks 10-16- 100mgTest prop ED
    Weeks 9-12/13 - T3
    Weeks 12/13 - 15 - Clen
    Weeks 16-18 - ECA
    Weeks 18-20 - Clen
    Weeks 20+ - ECA

    Was this better?
    Thanks again guys. And i heard itīs a good thing to run test one week longer then fina to make the pct easier.

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    I would extend the enanthate a week longer than the eq. but thats just how i would do it. your way is alright too.

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