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    david shapiro is offline New Member
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    Question newbies cycle, please advise

    hey bros:
    wk 1-8 500mg sust 250
    wk 1-12 50 mg winnie every day
    week 1-8 350 primobolan
    week 9-12 250 mg sust 250
    week 13 clomid 300mg one day, week 13-15 100 mg clomid x 10 days
    any advise would be loved
    thank you in an advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by david shapiro
    hey bros:
    wk 1-8 500mg sust 250
    wk 1-12 50 mg winnie every day
    week 1-8 350 primobolan
    week 9-12 250 mg sust 250
    week 13 clomid 300mg one day, week 13-15 100 mg clomid x 10 days
    any advise would be loved
    thank you in an advance
    That cycle is a mess bro. 250mg of SUS a week is a wate, winny should be ran for 6 weeks, your PCT would have started 3 weeks after your last injection of SUS, and primo is faked so much I wouldn't buy it.

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    i agree...sus needs to stay 500mg
    winnie at 6wks.....
    do ur research on proper pct.
    what are your goals?

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    Keep blood levels constant, dont pyramid the sust, keep the dosage even for 10 weeks. also sust needs to be injected more often due to the half life of the esters, to get the best benefit it should injected EOD, but you will see some sort of gains at two injects weekly. Also with the winny, DO NOT run it 12 weeks, if this is a first cycle then you might want to consider not running anything but test and see how your body responds.
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    weeks 1-10 Sus 500mg
    weeks 8-13 Winny 50mg ed
    PCT
    weeks 14-16 Clomid 300/100/50

    I wuold use a singe ester test like Enth or Cyp. Sustanon has to be injected e3d for best results. So if i were you, get a single ester test like i stated before. Have some novladex on hand in case of gyno.

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    If this is your first cycle, you should strick to one compound. Just shoot 500 test for 10-12 weeks.

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    thank you all

    i will do the sust 250 every 3 days (500 mg a week) for 12 weeks and see how that works.
    i reallywant to gain mass
    also i have heard not to use creatine when on a cycle. is this right?
    thanks again to everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by david shapiro
    i will do the sust 250 every 3 days (500 mg a week) for 12 weeks and see how that works.
    i reallywant to gain mass
    also i have heard not to use creatine when on a cycle. is this right?
    thanks again to everyone
    i stay on creatine when on, just drink plenty of water

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    Quote Originally Posted by david shapiro
    i will do the sust 250 every 3 days (500 mg a week) for 12 weeks and see how that works.
    i reallywant to gain mass
    also i have heard not to use creatine when on a cycle. is this right?
    thanks again to everyone
    I don't use creatine because you already have enough water bloat from the test.

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