Thread: T3 Experts
03-19-2004, 01:43 PM #1
Anyone know whats the highest dose of T3 that can be cycled to increase protein synthesis and add LBM without creating muscle catabolism or shutting down endogenous thyroid output??
03-19-2004, 02:15 PM #2
This needs a BUMP
03-19-2004, 02:18 PM #3Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
03-19-2004, 02:21 PM #4
T3 isn't really going to build mass. It's known more to actually take some away, along with fat mass. Many here would run it with some test. Check around as I know there are some T3 posts as far as how to cycle and what to expect. Also, there may be something about it in the drug profiles section. Good luck.
03-19-2004, 02:27 PM #5
ask mallet about T3, his is very wise in this area.
03-19-2004, 02:34 PM #6
True, Mallet is the Daddy!
03-19-2004, 07:03 PM #7
I have done some research and I have found that T3 at minimal doses(6.25-12.5mcg/ED) will not shut down your thyroid nor cause muscle deprivation. I also found that at this dose your protein synthesis and energy levels are increased. I know T3 ran at higher levels(say 100-150mcg/day) will turn your body into a fat/calorie burning machine and in essence you'll be negating the protein synethesis effect as well. At doses like that, there needs to be a good amount of AS supplemented in order to counter the muscle catabolism effect. My question is: Is there a median where all effects can be beneficial??
03-19-2004, 07:08 PM #8Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
03-20-2004, 03:47 AM #9
03-20-2004, 03:56 AM #10
1/4 of a pill
03-20-2004, 04:04 AM #11
run cycleon's t3 layout
03-20-2004, 04:04 AM #12
Is 1/4 of a pill a fact,(give or take) or a guess?
03-20-2004, 06:24 AM #13
I think for most the safe dose is around 12.5 mcg without much catabolism. My understanding (never personally been tested) is that there is still some suppression of natural thyroid function but it is relatively minimal. I know lots of bb's like to run a low dose when taking in large amounts of protein (400 or more a day). I think you certainly can safely experiment at that dose without any long term problems.
03-20-2004, 06:29 AM #14
It's just what i do to increase protein synthesis.
03-20-2004, 06:37 AM #15
25mcg is about all you want to take for this purpose...
I sometimes go up to 50mcg for the same purpose, but
even as low as 50mcg it is possible to start being catabolic
unless you are running some anabolics...
I run T3 often, so this is my opinion from using the drug...
Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
03-23-2004, 11:09 PM #16Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
T3 will not add LBM directly, however it will assist in an excelerated rate of protein synthesis which is attributed to increasing LBM. Catabolism can occur at any dose really...but as a rule of thumb .5mcg per lb of body wieght is used as a max before t3 begins to use protein as well as carbs and fat for fuel etc...However the simultaneous intake of AAS change this rate significantly.
Enogenous production can be haulted at doses as low as 25mcg per day ( if your taking t3) With t4 this number changes, and endogenous production is not hindered the same because the end product (t3) is still being converted by your body, however the dosing is much higher with t4 as well...usually between 5-10 times the amount you would take of t3.
03-24-2004, 02:17 AM #17
Mallet, how in the world can you get an accurate Temp, when you're on a couple Grams of Gear (Collectively) Plus Clen /ECA etc etc.....My wife is hatin' me right now...I have the window open and the fan on me/us....and I'm still warm.
03-24-2004, 08:25 AM #18Originally Posted by TheSevnthWarrior
03-24-2004, 08:36 AM #19Originally Posted by Mallet
03-24-2004, 08:45 AM #20Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
03-24-2004, 10:02 AM #21
Great inform mallet. I know u are very busy in ur life with school and other things. I have to say u have done alot of work with this subject. On by half of the bros on this board Thank you for u time and effort.
03-24-2004, 11:34 AM #22
03-24-2004, 12:38 PM #23Originally Posted by Dieselpower
I'm glad to be apart of this board, I find alot of useful info here and believe there are alot of knowledgeable people on this site as well...It's good that we can pick each others brain...even if we agree to disagree! So lets stay healthy!!!
03-24-2004, 01:57 PM #24Originally Posted by Mallet
03-24-2004, 03:52 PM #25Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
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