Deca?

[razor67]

well, you wont die...
imo, the negatives of running deca without test outweigh the positives..

[Kingkasino]

but bascially i can't get test

Your source can get deca but not test? Weird, heh. If all else fails go to TJ.



Kingkasino

[DCL]

does it matter that im only 21 and choosing what to go on?, ive been working out for 3 years as hard as i can basically

[Honest Abe]

dcl:
use the search button when you have a question and save your self for sounding like every other newbie moron. and btw test is not the strongest ass you can use. your miss informed. read the bullitins and the educational forums. learn what your doing before you Decide to do it. were trying to help you here ok....

and btw i did a deca only cycle before i found this board and it was a big mistake don't do it.

on more thing hows your diet? because thats what makes up about 70% of your results imo.

ABE

[DCL]

i just found out that i can get some winny's to go with the deca ..is that ok or is that just as bad as deca alone... How do you feel about a winny depot cycle by itself?

[toolman]

Look, if you can't get the right gear, then don't do a cycle. On deca , you most probably will not be able to have sex. It is also very hard to recover from especially with no test in the cycle. No one is going to tell you differently. The choice is your's, follow the good advice you're getting or do the foolish cycle you are planning. No one is going to tell you otherwise.

[Dude-Man]

you think the long term effects of one cycle of test would be less than a cycle of deca? I dont see how considering that test is the most potent steroid you can put in your body... and another question..is the PCT different if i took a stack of test and deca as opposed to deca alone?

test is not the most potent steroid that you can put in your body. methyl trieneolone (methyl tren ) is (arguably). Before that, there's a bunch of other steroids that are more potent on a mg per mg basis. If your source can't get test, then i would really doubt that the deca that you've purchased from him is legitamate.

[MacadociousMac]

Hey; I've been reading all the info you guys have been submitting about the deca ....It seems that the best way to take it is with some form of testosterone to prevent the infamous "Deca Dick"....I have some Deca 300, and from what I read I'm scared as hell to take that stuff by itself; I was wondering if taking Deca with over the counter stuff like "1-tu" or "tribex" could help prevent Deca dick? Or is it not worth to take it unless with a sust or tess?

[spywizard]

no............ and you should take more test than deca ..

example... 300mg deca
500mg test.....

Hey; I've been reading all the info you guys have been submitting about the deca....It seems that the best way to take it is with some form of testosterone to prevent the infamous "Deca Dick"....I have some Deca 300, and from what I read I'm scared as hell to take that stuff by itself; I was wondering if taking Deca with over the counter stuff like "1-tu" or "tribex" could help prevent Deca dick? Or is it not worth to take it unless with a sust or tess?

[BUYLONGTERM]

STOP, STOP, STOP STOP!!!! YIKES. LISTEN. Just becasue you screwed up and just bought DECA , quit trying to find reasons to take it alone. Like all of the knowledgable bro's on the board have said YOU HAVE TO HAVE TEST IN THE CYCLE. Heaviest side effects? NO WAY. It's blown out of proportion, I assure you. My first cycle, I was on Test for 16 weeks and didn't get 1 side effect except for a little bit of ACNE!! In fact, I love the feeling TEST gives me. It's 2nd to none.

Unless someone's a total idiot, again, you will not find 1 knowledgable bro on this board who will tell you to run DECA alone or with anythng esle besides test. ****, you even have guys telling you they tried it and regretted it big time.

I strongly suggest a beginner NOT use TEST PROP or SUST. To many injections. I would go with Enan, or Cyp.

Now, SLOW DOWN, do some more research.

[BUYLONGTERM]

Hey; I've been reading all the info you guys have been submitting about the deca....It seems that the best way to take it is with some form of testosterone to prevent the infamous "Deca Dick"....I have some Deca 300, and from what I read I'm scared as hell to take that stuff by itself; I was wondering if taking Deca with over the counter stuff like "1-tu" or "tribex" could help prevent Deca dick? Or is it not worth to take it unless with a sust or tess?

Listen to SPY. Next time before you purchase anything, do some research!!!!

[DCL]

ok, deca alone is the worst thing you can do.. but if one must do this stupid, idiotic cycle..how do you incorperate anti-estrogen's(clomid/nolvadex )? When do i start taking these(during the cycle, 3 weeks after the cycle), which one is the best to use when on deca, and how many mg/day?

[toolman]

ok, deca alone is the worst thing you can do.. but if one must do this stupid, idiotic cycle..how do you incorperate anti-estrogen's(clomid/nolvadex)? When do i start taking these(during the cycle, 3 weeks after the cycle), which one is the best to use when on deca, and how many mg/day?

Bro, you will never learn!

You do not use nolva with deca . Although you can get gyno, it is progestrone related, not estrogen related. Let some ohter bro tell you what you need as I won't be a part of this stupidity. You have too much to learn as is evident by this question and your willingness to proceed with, as you put it, stupid, idiotic cycle.

[RUballs0514]

do not to deca . too many sides. do a little research on this site and i bet most people would recommend you doing a test cycle first. this is the one i'm doin:

wk 1-12 Monday morning inject 1ml (250mg) test E into quad. Thursday night inject 1ml into other quad.. basically 1 shot every 3.5 days, this way you are keeping blood levels stable.

Wk 9-14 take 1 winstol pill (25mg) every 12 hours, so one when u wake up and one at night. Its 50mg a day for 6 weeks.

While taking winny you will wanna take 1 milk thistle pill every morning.... 2 pills on the days you drink. Milk thistle blocks the harmful toxins from winny and alcohol entering your liver.

14 days after last test shot and 1 day after last winny you start PCT, post cycle therapy .
Day 1: 300mg clomid (thats six 50mg pills) 20mg nolva (2 pills) and 4 grams of tribulus (4 pills)
Day 2-11: 100mg clomid, 20m nolva, 4 g trib
Day 12-21 50mg clomid, 20mg nolva, 4 g trib
then you should be completley recovered and have your natural test levels going again.

this is a safe cycle and shouldn't result in anything harmful or unusual. correct me if i'm wrong. but if you're dead set on this other stuff i'd reccommend EQ rather than deca.

good luck with everything bro

[RUballs0514]

but you have to have test, you won't have any naturally if you're on deca , you may not realize it right away but you will seriously screw up your body and i doubt you want that

[jollygreenGIANT]

u r so not ready for steroids its not even funny

[hoopcat528]

DCL:
I'll put the whole test issue aside for a second.

Most of the people on this board have had good luck with QV deca , or just QV products in general.

I personally have found them underdosed. So far, I have only gotten them in Tijuana, however, so maybe it is a problem with my source and not QV itself. But I have had bad luck with QV anavar and trenbolone .

But just watch out, in general I have always gotten much better results with human grade stuff. In the case of human grade deca, I like Organon deca and find it is readily available.

[crane]

is this a joke?

dam balls you gotta stop bringing sh*t up from a year ago.
i just got done reading one a few minutes ago that was a year old.