Which AntiEstrogen is better in you guys opinion?

***Sicilian30*** · 02-09-2002, 01:24 PM

Nolvadex or Proviron ? which one do you all prefer? I am going to be using with Dbol /Winny Cycle. I am gonna get both to see how each works. What do you guys think?

**arthurb999** · 02-09-2002, 01:27 PM

dbol /winnie... why are you doing that?

***Sicilian30*** · 02-09-2002, 01:28 PM

Opps forgot gonna be puttin some Deca in there too.. ... Winny to help with the hardness and Dbol /Deca to build the mass... Also Winny I understand helps with the Deca Dick..
Which Anti Ester would be betta.???

**arthurb999** · 02-09-2002, 01:35 PM

With deca and winnie you don't need and anti-e. Get some novla in case the dbol causes you gyno but I doubt you'll use it. I've done deca/winnie, my friend has done it, Pete has done it and none of us got "Deca Dick." If you do get it, it will probably be at the end of your cycle. After a week of clomid, you should be back to normal.

***Sicilian30*** · 02-09-2002, 06:05 PM

So Proviron compare to Nolv? I am afraid I will get gyno on this cycle.... I did dbol before and got a light touch of it.
winny will help with Gyno?

**MIKE_XXL** · 02-09-2002, 06:11 PM

I would go with Nolvadex ...

***Sicilian30*** · 02-09-2002, 06:15 PM

Thanks Mike, what I wanted to hear....

**wtmsvw** · 02-10-2002, 02:08 PM

50 mg Proviron

**Boston** · 02-10-2002, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by sk*
if you have access to nolva, then nolva all the way
i wouldn't ever use proviron personally, unless i had access to nothing else

I'm a little curious Sk*... Why would you never use Proviron ? In my opinion it is the better choice. The proviron actually prevents the aromatization where as the Nolvadex prevents the aromatized estrogen from binding at the receptor sites. Doesn't it make more since to not allow the aromatization in the first place? The only problem I see with Proviron is you need about twice as much as Nolvadex for it to be affective. (50mg ED) That translates to about $2 a day. That can get expensive on a ten week cycle.

**big N** · 02-10-2002, 02:46 PM

i thought that novaldex,cuts the effects of the juice down,but proviron actualy does not effect your cycle.

The Iron Game · 02-10-2002, 02:59 PM

anything that supresses estrogen will in fact hinder gains. winny doesnt aromatise so no nolvadex or anti aromatase is needed, its also not needed with deca so in fact the only true reason is for the dianabol . Its not such a good idea to mix dbol and winny together not because everyone says its bad but because it has been known to cause many a problems with some individuals.

***Sicilian30*** · 02-10-2002, 05:12 PM

Thanks Iron.. did you get my PM bruther? About the file uploads?
Now I am all confused.. Iron just burst my bubble. What kinda problems do some experience with Winny and dbol Iron? I have never heard this one? Can you shead some light on it for me?