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    PLEEEEASE critique!!!

    First off thanks for taking the time. My goal is to gain the most lean muscle mass without adding on pounds from fat. Please let me know what you think and I always appreciate suggestions. Stats: 5'8 175 workout 4x's/weeks.

    6:30AM
    3 hard boiled egg whites
    Bowl of Oatmeal
    Protein Shake (17mg of protein)

    10:00AM
    Cup of Yogurt

    12:00PM
    Salad
    Can of Tuna fish in water
    Banana

    3:00PM
    Peanut Butter and jelly sandwich

    4:30PM (pre work out)
    Protein Shake
    cup of cottage cheese

    7:00PM (post work out)
    2 scoops of protein with Milk
    1 scoop dextrose

    8:00PM
    White Meat chicken
    Veggies

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    First off, what is your body fat percentage as of now?
    your diet looks ok, but premature. just read up (mainly about "clean bulking") it will give you the info you need, and see if there are any changes you would make to that diet based on what works best for you. I can say that it definately looks like you don't have nearly enough daily calories IMO. and personally i keep all my carbs around my workouts (before and 2 meals after). but you have the basics, hopefully some of the mods / more experienced guys will give you their opinions as well. some good luck brotha.
    Last edited by novastepp; 02-05-2006 at 10:17 PM.

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    thanks, i hope so too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyJ
    First off thanks for taking the time. My goal is to gain the most lean muscle mass without adding on pounds from fat. Please let me know what you think and I always appreciate suggestions. Stats: 5'8 175 workout 4x's/weeks.

    6:30AM
    3 hard boiled egg whites add 7
    Bowl of Oatmeal make this quaker oats, mixed packages have wayy too much sugar
    Protein Shake (17mg of protein) why bother? remove this imo

    10:00AM
    Cup of Yogurt carb only meal? Add lean protein source

    12:00PM
    Salad
    Can of Tuna fish in water add mayo
    Banana remove

    3:00PM
    Peanut Butter and jelly sandwich mixing carbs and fats thats no good. Get natural peanut butter, normal pb has harmful hydrogenated oils in it

    4:30PM (pre work out) make this pro/carb
    Protein Shake
    cup of cottage cheese replace with 1 cup oats

    7:00PM (post work out)
    2 scoops of protein with Milk
    1 scoop dextrose scoop? How many grams is that?

    8:00PM (post post workoout
    White Meat chicken
    Veggies
    2 cups brown rice
    1. read the bulking sticky, you have some basic learning to do
    2. not NEARLY enough food. You're BULKING!

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    BULKING = ok to mix macros bro!! As long as they are clean! Lose the jelly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurz
    BULKING = ok to mix macros bro!! As long as they are clean! Lose the jelly...
    That is actually up to each person.

    I've seen people do okay on that (extreme ectos), but most just add a lot of sloppy fat weight.

    Those I counse, I do not have them mix macros when trying to attain lean mass and not a fat ass. The way in which you can utilize the top-shelf of the calorie intake by controlling slin levels and not mixing energy sources, has shown (on my protocols anyhow) to yield fat more lean muscle mass and fat less fat.

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    strange cause I'm an endo, mix my carbs, and do pretty well...oh well.

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    Lean Mass and Cutting

    My suggestion is that you don't HIJACK people's threads.

    Rude like a mother f*cker...



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    Quote Originally Posted by cforn
    29 yrs old
    190lbs
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    24bmi

    I'm starting a 12 week cycle of Test wed.

    I'm looking for a diet that will keep water retention down and build muscle while cutting fat.

    Any suggestions?
    yea dont thread jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurz
    strange cause I'm an endo, mix my carbs, and do pretty well...oh well.
    You mean mix fat/carbs?

    Good you can, but you may find you can seperate them and eat more calories in totality, and still remain leaner while attaining more muscle mass.

    I'm not thinking about just the issue of fat storage and avoiding it with fat/carbs together, I'm talking about manipulating that into a different pattern to yield better lean mass gains and overall less fat.

    I don't think cut/dry like most, you gotta keep that in mind. Too many people see one issue and think there is only one aspect to it. Such is not the case.

    As well, if you are a true endo then u are mixin' fat/carbs but staying below your BMS with all of your activity. Bodytypes mean nothing if the calories are below BMR. However, body composition and the way you eat does differ FOR ALL THREE body-types. Again, my advanced thinking, but there is a good reason why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    You mean mix fat/carbs?

    Good you can, but you may find you can seperate them and eat more calories in totality, and still remain leaner while attaining more muscle mass.

    I'm not thinking about just the issue of fat storage and avoiding it with fat/carbs together, I'm talking about manipulating that into a different pattern to yield better lean mass gains and overall less fat.

    I don't think cut/dry like most, you gotta keep that in mind. Too many people see one issue and think there is only one aspect to it. Such is not the case.

    As well, if you are a true endo then u are mixin' fat/carbs but staying below your BMS with all of your activity. Bodytypes mean nothing if the calories are below BMR. However, body composition and the way you eat does differ FOR ALL THREE body-types. Again, my advanced thinking, but there is a good reason why.

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    Very well said!

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    Why thank you.

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    ok im a little lost...does everyone agree with the suggestions CHEST6 made? Im not doubting you bro, just want to get opinions. Whats a macro and an endo?

    Im not trying to bulk too much. Im starting cardio back up again. I miss my abs!

    HELP!? lol

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    anyone?

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    endomorph-person who tends to put on fat more easily than others. Gains weight easily
    mesomorph-person who tends to keep a more lean/muscular appearance with ease
    ectomorph-person who tends to find it difficult to gain weight. Very fast metabolism.

    macronutrient-carbs/fats/proteins

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    thanks buddy

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