blasting

**tony1982** · 11-15-2011, 06:52 PM

I am currently on hrt at 200 mgs per week and 2 ius of hgh. Am thinking of doing a 12 week blast of 400mgs of test and 400mgs of equipoise per week with 25 mgs of d-bol the first 4 weeks. What are some of your experiences with blasting while on hrt. Do you guys do a good job retaining your gains. More so than say coming of a cycle completely.

**marcus300** · 11-15-2011, 07:10 PM

What are your stats?
How long have you been on hrt?
I would drop the eq it will be useless at that dose and its a weak compound anyway,
Dropping back down to your hrt dose will maintain gains a lot better than going into pct.

**tony1982** · 11-15-2011, 08:27 PM

Im 30 yrs old, 6' 225 pounds. Not sure of my bf % but have some extra belly. Ive done 5 or so cycles in the past all with testosterone and a mixture of either deca equipoise , winstrol , primobolan . been on hrt for 5 months or so. Was thinking of replacing the equipoise with trenbelone E. Been researching it for a while and just hope I dont have the bad sides but will take it responsible with a proper ai. thoughts and thanks in advance.

**JD250** · 11-16-2011, 12:02 AM

Better advice about cycles will be found in other forums, yes, you should keep your gains much easier on TRT.

**bass** · 11-16-2011, 12:46 AM

i did 300/300 test/deca for 9 weeks and didn't see any difference except for some shoulder pain relief from deca!

**tony1982** · 11-16-2011, 08:18 AM

Yeah i read the other forums as well just wondering what some people on hrt who blasted what there experiences were.

**APIs** · 11-16-2011, 09:14 AM

At only 5 months into TRT, OP may not be correctly dialed in yet to be doing a blast this early. It will surely change yr baseline BW figures & may have your Dr. scratching his head. Why not wait awhile? You have the rest of your life considering it's TRT right?

**kelkel** · 11-16-2011, 09:25 AM

My thoughts exactly API. I can't imagine anyone dialed in with only 5 months on trt. Pushing the edge of the envelope......

**zaggahamma** · 11-16-2011, 09:29 AM

i like the idea of what the hrt doses test and gh could do over time

**bass** · 11-16-2011, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

i like the idea of what the hrt doses test and gh could do over time

isn't hat what dr. life did? from what i understand he never blasted, he simply took his TRT dose along with GH and supplements...and look at him today!

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**zaggahamma** · 11-16-2011, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by bass

isn't hat what dr. life did? from what i understand he never blasted, he simply took his TRT dose along with GH and supplements...and look at him today!

yeh...i see no reason to blast at my age....i would jump on hgh if i had a chance...that old fart almost looks too good for his age if thats possible

**tony1982** · 11-16-2011, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by APIs

At only 5 months into TRT, OP may not be correctly dialed in yet to be doing a blast this early. It will surely change yr baseline BW figures & may have your Dr. scratching his head. Why not wait awhile? You have the rest of your life considering it's TRT right?

Sure I could wait a while but I am going to a clinic and paying those prices so i dont think the doc will question me to much about my weight gain. Im hoping to drop some weight during this blast so hopefully my weight will drop or not change that much do to the added muscle.

**BigBadWolf** · 11-16-2011, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by bass

isn't hat what dr. life did? from what i understand he never blasted, he simply took his TRT dose along with GH and supplements...and look at him today!

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118076"/>

Holy hell it's chuck Norris's grandfather!!!

**tony1982** · 11-16-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by bass

isn't hat what dr. life did? from what i understand he never blasted, he simply took his TRT dose along with GH and supplements...and look at him today!

He is an inspiration that is for sure.

**bass** · 11-16-2011, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

yeh...i see no reason to blast at my age....i would jump on hgh if i had a chance...that old fart almost looks too good for his age if thats possible

you only need hgh if you are deficient, most of us our gh increase beyond the normal range once on TRT, mine did. have you checked yours since you been on TRT?

**APIs** · 11-16-2011, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by tony1982

Sure I could wait a while but I am going to a clinic and paying those prices so i dont think the doc will question me to much about my weight gain. Im hoping to drop some weight during this blast so hopefully my weight will drop or not change that much do to the added muscle.

He's not going to question your weight! If yr BW comes back screwed up based on left-over blast numbers he could change your regimen which might include lowering your Test Dose if your numbers come back too high/not to his liking. That's why you should get dialed in first where your Dr. is happy with your dosing based on BW before you start blasting...anyone else care to chime in?

**NOSUPERMODEL** · 11-16-2011, 03:44 PM

I would say wait a while because you never know when they will want to call you in for blood work considering you are only 5 months in. Once you get it dialed in and he says okay see you in 6 months, then do the blast so you have time for your levels to get back to what the doctor expects to see.

**abbot138** · 11-16-2011, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by tony1982

I am currently on hrt at 200 mgs per week and 2 ius of hgh. Am thinking of doing a 12 week blast of 400mgs of test and 400mgs of equipoise per week with 25 mgs of d-bol the first 4 weeks. What are some of your experiences with blasting while on hrt. Do you guys do a good job retaining your gains. More so than say coming of a cycle completely.

Of course you retain your gains better. You pretty much keep any lean mass gains that you made while on, will lose some water weight and of course some strength. But when your test doesnt go in the pooper bc of PCT your body is better able to protect the LBM that you gained......That being said, dont do it, lol. Its a slippery slope and it kind of defeats the whole purpose of TRT. If you are gonna do it, call it like it is and just say that your gonna blast and cruise, bc thats what you will end up doing. Trust me.....And like Marcus said, ditch the EQ.

**tony1982** · 11-16-2011, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by APIs

He's not going to question your weight! If yr BW comes back screwed up based on left-over blast numbers he could change your regimen which might include lowering your Test Dose if your numbers come back too high/not to his liking. That's why you should get dialed in first where your Dr. is happy with your dosing based on BW before you start blasting...anyone else care to chime in?

I appreciate your advise but they only do blood work once a year so i will be off the blast for 3 1/2 months. My numbers should be leveled back out by then. At least thats what I thought.

**zaggahamma** · 11-16-2011, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by NOSUPERMODEL

I would say wait a while because you never know when they will want to call you in for blood work considering you are only 5 months in. Once you get it dialed in and he says okay see you in 6 months, then do the blast so you have time for your levels to get back to what the doctor expects to see.

this should never be a surprise and me as a patient will determine when i can and will do bloodwork.... doing bloodwork isnt an on call situation but i agree with the wait part as it definitely is a good idea to know your baselines and proper trt doses, etc. before adding in any extras

**zaggahamma** · 11-16-2011, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by bass

you only need hgh if you are deficient, most of us our gh increase beyond the normal range once on TRT, mine did. have you checked yours since you been on TRT?

need or benefit?

your saying hgh wont benefit you if you have sufficient levels already?

interesting

no, i only had it tested prior to trt and it was like 222

**zaggahamma** · 11-16-2011, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by tony1982

I appreciate your advise but they only do blood work once a year so i will be off the blast for 3 1/2 months. My numbers should be leveled back out by then. At least thats what I thought.

u thought right

**bass** · 11-16-2011, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

need or benefit?

your saying hgh wont benefit you if you have sufficient levels already?

interesting

no, i only had it tested prior to trt and it was like 222

good question! i am sure it has benefits even if you have sufficient levels, but there is a higher risk for cancer injecting hgh vs. testosterone ! even dr. Life admits to this. so if anyone is considering hgh i suggest they do it through a qualified doctor to be safe.

**zaggahamma** · 11-16-2011, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by bass

good question! i am sure it has benefits even if you have sufficient levels, but there is a higher risk for cancer injecting hgh vs. testosterone! even dr. Life admits to this. so if anyone is considering hgh i suggest they do it through a qualified doctor to be safe.

wow first i've heard of cancer risk
guess i need to read more
moot point anyway cuz i'm poor

**APIs** · 11-17-2011, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by tony1982

I appreciate your advise but they only do blood work once a year so i will be off the blast for 3 1/2 months. My numbers should be leveled back out by then. At least thats what I thought.

I'm surprised by some VET comments here considering OP is only 5 months in. This place sounds like a script mill. If they're only having you do blood work once a year, you should ditch this clinic IMO. From what I understand, optimal health while on TRT dictates that BW be reviewed quarterly or at least 2+ x year. It's your body & health though I guess...

**flatscat** · 11-17-2011, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by APIs

I'm surprised by some VET comments here considering OP is only 5 months in. This place sounds like a script mill. If they're only having you do blood work once a year, you should ditch this clinic IMO. From what I understand, optimal health while on TRT dictates that BW be reviewed quarterly or at least 2+ x year. It's your body & health though I guess...

I agree with your premise - but no so much that the op will get caught with high levels (certainly possible though), but for the fact it usually takes at least 5 months to really start seeing the benefits from trt, and at least that long, prolly longer for the body to really settle into the new levels (if you are close to being dialed in). It definitely takes longer to really know how your body reacts to the new meds and any adjustments you make to your protocol. We always say this is not a race - it is a marathon so my advise is to level out, make all the gains you can, then add compounds if you wish. But it is just an opinion - good luck either way.

Flats

**NOSUPERMODEL** · 11-17-2011, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by jpkman

this should never be a surprise and me as a patient will determine when i can and will do bloodwork.... doing bloodwork isnt an on call situation but i agree with the wait part as it definitely is a good idea to know your baselines and proper trt doses, etc. before adding in any extras

Your write I guess I should have said you usually have to go in more frequent when you first start. Of course when I first started I was scheduling blood work every six weeks so I could see how my body was reacting.