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    IGF LR3 "Nutral" reconstitued with AA

    This is what I heard about the brand:

    "This brand "Nutral" comes in already reconstitued with Acetetic Acid and should be good for at least 2 years. Also it can be transported easy and without cooling, without the risk of being denaturated."

    I personally do not believe these statements, and wanted some opinions.
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    i copyd this from another thread,its posted by johnyB,info given by gropep maufacterer of lr3.


    Description
    Long™R3IGF-I is a recombinant analog of human insulin -like
    growth factor-I (IGF-I) that has been specifically engineered
    for the enhancement of cell culture performance.
    Long™R3IGF-I is more biologically potent in vitro than either
    insulin or native IGF-I and has been documented to
    significantly increase recombinant protein production. It is
    ideal for both research and large-scale culture systems utilizing
    serum-free or low-level serum applications. Long™R3IGF-I is
    effective in any cell that contains type I IGF receptors, including
    most Chinese Hamster Ovary (CHO) lines, hybridomas and
    fibroblasts. Long™R3IGF-I is produced in a patented E. coli
    expression system without the use of animal-derived
    components.
    Precautions
    This product is for research/laboratory use. THIS PRODUCT
    IS NOT INTENDED FOR HUMAN OR THERAPEUTIC USE.
    Storage

    Long™R3IGF-I in lyophilized form should be stored at
    2 to 8 C and is stable for at least 3 years. Liquid solutions of
    Long™R3IGF-I (prepared as described below) can be stored
    at 2 to 8 C and are stable for at least 2 years.
    Preparation Instructions

    1. Long™R3IGF-I is supplied lyophilized in an atmosphere of
    nitrogen at a slight vacuum (-25 kPa). Remove the metal
    cap from the glass vial and introduce an air filled syringe
    through the septum to equalize the pressure.

    2. Add sufficient 10 mM HCl or 100 mM acetic acid solution
    to the vial to achieve a peptide concentration of at least
    0.1 mg/mL. Concentrations of 1 mg/mL or more are
    recommended.

    3. Mix the solution thoroughly to insure the peptide is
    completely dissolved.

    4. Filtration of a Long™R3IGF-I solution or a culture medium
    after the addition of Long™R3IGF-I should be performed
    using a low protein-binding membrane such as
    Polyvinyl Idene Flouride (PVDF), Poly Ethylene Sulfite (PES)
    or Cellulose Acetate (CA).
    Methods for Use

    Once Long™R3IGF-I has been reconstituted, it can then be
    added directly to cell culture medium. A titration of
    Long™R3IGF-I should be performed for each different
    application as the optimum concentration may vary depending
    upon the cell type used and other components present in the
    medium. The recommended final concentration range of
    Long™R3IGF-I is 10 to 50 µg/L (or ng/mL).

    Because Long™R3IGF-I and insulin may compete for the same
    cell receptors, the effectiveness of Long™R3IGF-I will be
    masked if it is added in conjunction with commonly employed
    concentrations of insulin (1 to 10 mg/L). However, inclusion
    of physiological levels of insulin (5 to 10 µg/L) in cell culture
    medium containing the recommended levels of
    Long™R3IGF-I results in beneficial synergistic effects in certain
    applications.


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    btw i never heard of the company nutral,anybody else?

    -rodge

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodge nl.
    btw i never heard of the company nutral,anybody else?

    -rodge
    I heard of it:
    http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/for...ad.php?t=42086

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    Ok, so it can be stable for 2 years reconstitued...
    But will it survive transport? Even if one does it at 2-6 °C?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myobolix
    Ok, so it can be stable for 2 years reconstitued...
    But will it survive transport? Even if one does it at 2-6 °C?
    you can read the results at the link that I had posted

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    Sorry but I do not find any answer in that thread. Just a lot of hype, and no common sense.
    I firstly do not believe that reconstitued igf can be carelessly transported. Secoundly, why reconstitued, why not dry with an ampul of h2o extra? And why Acidic acid?
    And above all, they say it is ok to store it at room t°!? Can you believe this?

    I think someone is trying to sell big, no matter what.

    IGtropin from Gensci is trasported in a dry lyofolised state, and an ampul of h2o extra.
    The written info states that one should store it at refrigerator.
    Common Sense.

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    It's just the same formula as with MR.
    MR is also in AA and everbody who use it, is happy with the results.

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