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    drip drip drip.... I walked outside to get the paper and by the time I got back the back of my shirt and my forehead were covered in sweat.

    Ostie, you didn't notice very many side effects at a gram a day?! Im speechless....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    It has anti-histamine properties and well, even though the dose in the caps (300mg I believe) is inefficient at this dose.
    I thought it was 200? =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    I thought it was 200? =P
    You might be right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    You might be right

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    The banana is correct. 200mg of each....Thanks Banana.

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    Do you have a list of all the supplements and how much of each you are taking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    The banana is correct. 200mg of each....Thanks Banana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    Ostie, you didn't notice very many side effects at a gram a day?! Im speechless....
    The sides were definately there, but I was just expecting absolute hell after reading alot of the journals on here and I was able to see first hand how it affected my friend when he did his cycle before mine. My expectations of the sides just were alot higher than what actually happened.

    I never even sweated fully through a shirt, just the underarms and around the neck if I was doing alot of work. My WORST side was not being able to breath after the dnp built up, I could never catch my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSTIE
    The sides were definately there, but I was just expecting absolute hell after reading alot of the journals on here and I was able to see first hand how it affected my friend when he did his cycle before mine. My expectations of the sides just were alot higher than what actually happened.

    I never even sweated fully through a shirt, just the underarms and around the neck if I was doing alot of work. My WORST side was not being able to breath after the dnp built up, I could never catch my breath.

    -ost
    I havn't really got the breathing thing yet. My expectations were a lot higher aswell, I was expecting not to be able to get up from the bed . But my expectations were not as high on the amount of fat I would lose, that I seem to be losing. Its unreal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    Do you have a list of all the supplements and how much of each you are taking?
    I elaborated on yeasturdays final post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    I havn't really got the breathing thing yet. My expectations were a lot higher aswell, I was expecting not to be able to get up from the bed . But my expectations were not as high on the amount of fat I would lose, that I seem to be losing. Its unreal!
    This is something that is key for people to understand.

    Everyone will react differently.

    Some will have more sides and less fat loss, others will be the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    This is something that is key for people to understand.

    Everyone will react differently.

    Some will have more sides and less fat loss, others will be the opposite.
    Very true, I appear to be a lucky one. Everyone reading this may not be so lucky, take it easy for until you see how your going to react and then adjust the doseage accordingly. You need to calculate you blood levels and find a point that suites you.

    I have a confession to make, I had half a bag of no fat chips earlier (big bag), I didn't plan on eating them, but they were in the convieneince store when I was getting gas and I crumbled. I burned like all hell for about 2 hours and was breathing hard as well. Lesson learned, no more cheating until the end. It totally slipped my mind the chips were a starchy carb.

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    This is the confusing part of dnp . part I dont like. You have to keep the carbs up to burn a lot of fat but the downside is that it burns n sh it. =[

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    This is the confusing part of dnp. part I dont like. You have to keep the carbs up to burn a lot of fat but the downside is that it burns n sh it. =[
    No you don't. Eating a lot of carbs does not burn more fat, it just makes you hot.


    Read this thread and pay particular attention to einstein1905's two posts.

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=106264

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    No you don't. Eating a lot of carbs does not burn more fat, it just makes you hot.


    Read this thread and pay particular attention to einstein1905's two posts.

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=106264
    Guess theres 2 different school of thoughts regarding this. On that geocities site, it says having a high carb diet will be much more effective than a high fat moderate carb diet. Is einstein suggesting keeping the carbs down with moderate fats and high protein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    Guess theres 2 different school of thoughts regarding this. On that geocities site, it says having a high carb diet will be much more effective than a high fat moderate carb diet. Is einstein suggesting keeping the carbs down with moderate fats and high protein?
    High protein/moderate carbs/low fat is what I recommend. The amount of carbs should be enough that you don't feel bad, and that's going to be different for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    High protein/moderate carbs/low fat is what I recommend. The amount of carbs should be enough that you don't feel bad, and that's going to be different for everyone.
    What do you think of my diet sv-1? I've only got about 140g of carbs (all coming from oatmeal, and occaisional bbq sauce), its high in protein with only trace amounts of fat. Should I cut out more of the carb meals and go with straight protein most of the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    Guess theres 2 different school of thoughts regarding this. On that geocities site, it says having a high carb diet will be much more effective than a high fat moderate carb diet. Is einstein suggesting keeping the carbs down with moderate fats and high protein?
    I believe he is for pretty much just protein, with little amounts of carbs, and trace fat. I believe I can remember him writing "your only on it for a short time anyway, so just stick with protein" or something along those lines....

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    No that wasn't me, you need some carbs on DNP so you don't become hypoglycemic and feel like sh*t. Just don't go ass wild with the carbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    No that wasn't me, you need some carbs on DNP so you don't become hypoglycemic and feel like sh*t. Just don't go ass wild with the carbs.
    Ahhhh, ok, maybe it was someone else .

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    Day 5:

    Had pretty good sleep last night, had a little insomnia but it wasn't related to the dnp (I couldn't stop thinking about making my own sust, and what combo I was going to use lol!)

    7:30- 1/2 cap phentermine

    8:00-100g oatmeal, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 6 egg whites, Vit C, E, A, ALA, B, potasium, 200mg DNP

    11:00- 2 cans chicken, mustard.

    2:00- 100g oatmeal, 1 can chicken, bbq sauce.

    2:30- 1 half a bag of no fat chips (****IT I swore I wouldn't cheat again, I don't know how this happened, it seemed perfectly fine until I caught myself trying to rationalize it, then threw the bag away)

    4:00- Chest, shoulders, back (did a circuit of the machines, did 4 circuits, with 5 minutes rest between each one) finished with 20 minutes on 4 mph on the treadmill. The woman that cleans up the sweat off the machine had a pretty good workout as well

    5:00- 50g maltodextrin, 40g whey

    7:00- 2 cans of chicken, mustard

    9:00- ZMA, melatonin (I love this stuff btw!), 2 benedrill

    9:30- 50g oatmeal, 1 can chicken, calcium, c, e, potasium

    Sides:

    Heat: not so much today, I noticed an increase after the chips but all was well by the time I went to the gym. Strength was not faded at all in the gym, I was a madman (considering I only did machines ). I wouldn't normally put the treadmill after weights, but it wasn't that heavy enough a workout that I felt immediate glycogen replacement was neccissary (plus this process in my body isn't even working at full capacity right now anyways...)

    Lethargy: Lots of energy today for some reason. Im all excited about this new scale Im buying it measures up to 10mg !!

    Sweating: Not as much today as anyother day. I noticed it in the post office though while buying some stamps. My forehead was very sweaty, but other than that not to much.

    Hunger: A little but nothing uncontrollable, a lack of willpower brought a slight cheat in my diet today. I PROMISE it won't happen again.

    Dry mouth- I've noticed that my mouth has been dry on and off today more than it normally would despite drinking massive amounts of water (4.5 G's so far), Ill keep you all updated on this.

    I've decided that tommorow if I feel alright like I did today, then I will bump it up to 600mg for the last 3 days. But that has yet to be seen.. ..



    Later broski's!

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    Bro, I do not recommend that you bump it up to 600mg. Save that for your next cycle OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    Bro, I do not recommend that you bump it up to 600mg. Save that for your next cycle OK.
    Ok sv, I will save that for winter... Im not even in need to it now anyways, Im getting carried away. I've already lost about 3-4 pounds anyways!

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    Crap the benedrill is kicking in and the auction at ebay for my scale ends in about 30 minutes. Fack.

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    Well, I got to thinking about it, and have decided to stop the dnp now. I don't really need it right now, and want to save my caps for winter, and a second cycle.

    I think for my second cycle I will go: 200, 200, 400, 400, 400, 400, 400, 600 as long as I can stand, Then get off and start my contest dieting. I believe I have learned from my dnp experience what my tolerance are, and if sv-1 could make me a chart, that would be great . Ill post some after pics on my website for those who are interested saturday morning before I have to leave.

    Roids out-

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    Guess theres 2 different school of thoughts regarding this. On that geocities site, it says having a high carb diet will be much more effective than a high fat moderate carb diet. Is einstein suggesting keeping the carbs down with moderate fats and high protein?
    Yeah I was reading that too, now I am all confused. AAS's are like the bible, one thing is always contradicting the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Yeah I was reading that too, now I am all confused. AAS's are like the bible, one thing is always contradicting the other.
    Ill make it simple

    more carbs= more heat, not more fat burning. People once believed that lots of carbs were neccissary because they would get hot and think they burned more fat. It was later learned that this was totally false.

    bubba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    Ill make it simple

    more carbs= more heat, not more fat burning. People once believed that lots of carbs were neccissary because they would get hot and think they burned more fat. It was later learned that this was totally false.
    Yep.

    Here's what your new layout looks like.

    200----200
    200----326
    400----605
    400----781
    400----892
    400----962
    400----1006
    600----1234
    600----1377
    600----1467
    600----1524
    600----1560
    600----1583
    600----1597
    600----1606
    600----1612
    600----1615
    600----1617
    600----1619
    600----1620
    600----1621 <--- Peak
    600----1621
    600----1621

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 7 Day DNP diary.-dnp-101.jpg  

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    Nice charts sv-1. I like how you can see how much dnp is still in ones system after they finish their cycle.

    Steroids , keep up the good progress and journal, looks great.

    -ost

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    Yep.

    Here's what your new layout looks like.

    200----200
    200----326
    400----605
    400----781
    400----892
    400----962
    400----1006
    600----1234
    600----1377
    600----1467
    600----1524
    600----1560
    600----1583
    600----1597
    600----1606
    600----1612
    600----1615
    600----1617
    600----1619
    600----1620
    600----1621 <--- Peak
    600----1621
    600----1621

    Thanks bro! At that blood level Im pretty sure all I could do would be sit around and sweat. You've done 600 for 8 days havn't you sv?? How bad was that if ya don't mind me asking??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Yeah I was reading that too, now I am all confused. AAS's are like the bible, one thing is always contradicting the other.
    I remember reading something about the diet. It said you need to "fuel the fire." I looked into it some more and it turns out SV-1 was right. Not too much carbs and not too little is the best way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    Yep.

    Here's what your new layout looks like.

    200----200
    200----326
    400----605
    400----781
    400----892
    400----962
    400----1006
    600----1234
    600----1377
    600----1467
    600----1524
    600----1560
    600----1583
    600----1597
    600----1606
    600----1612
    600----1615
    600----1617
    600----1619
    600----1620
    600----1621 <--- Peak
    600----1621
    600----1621
    What equation did you use for those numbers? Lets say for example day 2, I put 48 hours on the calculator, the halflife, and 200mg and it gives me 79mgs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    What equation did you use for those numbers? Lets say for example day 2, I put 48 hours on the calculator, the halflife, and 200mg and it gives me 79mgs.

    (Amount taken/72) * number of hours since dose= Amount of decay

    Amount taken- amount of decay= blood level at any particular time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    What equation did you use for those numbers? Lets say for example day 2, I put 48 hours on the calculator, the halflife, and 200mg and it gives me 79mgs.
    The halflife is 36 hours....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    The halflife is 36 hours....
    yeah I know. I ment i put 48 hours (since i last took it), half-life(36) and the 200mg. sorry if it sounded wrong =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    yeah I know. I ment i put 48 hours (since i last took it), half-life(36) and the 200mg. sorry if it sounded wrong =/
    ohhhhh, I got you, well taking every 48 hours your going to have really low blood levels....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    ohhhhh, I got you, well taking every 48 hours your going to have really low blood levels....
    Yep. Spreading out the dosing times will give different results. The chart and calculations I posted are for 24 hour dosing.

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    So how much bf did you loose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroids101
    Thanks bro! At that blood level Im pretty sure all I could do would be sit around and sweat. You've done 600 for 8 days havn't you sv?? How bad was that if ya don't mind me asking??
    I did 600 for 7 days. Although it wasn't horrible, I prefer running a lower dose for longer. Same results with less sides, just takes a little longer. But that's just me, everyone's different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invid
    So how much bf did you loose?
    Im down to 173 on the scale, Im leaving sat morning and I know all the water won't be out by then, but a good deal of it will, and I will test then and take pics.

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