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    gotenks is offline Junior Member
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    Dnp cycle

    Ok guys i'm gonna run a dnp cycle
    Started last night at 200mg
    Gonna see how i feel in few days to if i wanna increase the doseage or not, will wait till at least 4rth day before i do this gonna try to run for 7-10 days.
    VIT c and e

    got loads of fruit ready and ice lollies
    should be a blast will try and keep ya allposted
    anywa thios morning felt groogy and a bit light headed thats all but no yellowness yet

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    Day 2 guys
    Sweated a bit while a sleep but nothing major
    sometime i get a bit light headed but thats all,
    Yesterday i ended up in a warm room and that was uncomfartable to say the least, the Stuffs kicking in but nothing major
    I'm about 178lbs if anyones curious

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    Days 3&4 ok its kicked in but nothing too bad a bit of groggyness sometimes, and at night alot of sweating, not super warm mind u still get cold sometimes and have to wrap up.
    One thing though after training the muscle soreness lasts longer thats all.

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    wonderful world of oz,where juice is free,plentiful,sterile, and not toxic to the liver
    keep em coming,good stuff

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    Amaru Killuminati is offline New Member
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    I've been researching DNP , although i'm a newb, its the same as using a bazooka to kill a fly:

    State Health Commissioner Warns of Dangers of Weight Loss Product

    Deadly Dinitrophenols Available Through Internet Sales
    ALBANY, NY, August 10, 2001-- State Health Commissioner Antonia C. Novello today warned against the use of products containing Dinitrophenols or DNP as a supplement for weight loss. The warning results from a report to the Department’s Pesticide Poisoning Registry on the recent death of a Long Island resident who had reportedly used DNP for four days.

    The young man’s death was reported to the State Health Department by the Long Island Poison Control Center, which indicated that the individual apparently ingested 600 milligrams of DNP a day for four days.

    DNP is an agricultural pesticide (a herbicide) but is not registered for use in New York State. According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, it was sold in the 1930’s in diet pills but was banned in 1938 because of severe health effects. Dinitrophenols are toxic to the liver, kidney and nervous system. The chemical causes hyperthermia (increased body temperature), dehydration, tachycardia (rapid heartbeat), restlessness and manic behavior and convulsions which typically signify an immediate life-threatening intoxication. There are anecdotal reports of other deaths from DNP as a weight loss supplement.

    Although DNP use in diet pills was banned in 1938, it is currently being marketed and used by body builders, and is also advertised and marketed on the Internet. The extent of its use is unknown at this time.

    The State Health Department has contacted the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to explore ways to warn consumers about the dangers of DNP, to identify product names under which it is being sold and to dissuade its further use. The warning also will be sent to DNP web sites identified by the Department, body builder web sites and body builder magazines.


    Also see:
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    2,4-DNP 51-28-5

    September 1996

    This fact sheet answers the most frequently asked health questions about dinitrophenols. For more information, you may call the ATSDR Information Center at 1-888-422-8737. This fact sheet is one in a series of summaries about hazardous substances and their health effects. This information is important because this substance may harm you. The effects of exposure to any hazardous substance depend on the dose, the duration, how you are exposed, personal traits and habits, and whether other chemicals are present.

    SUMMARY: Exposure to dinitrophenols occurs mainly from breathing air, drinking water, or eating food that contains the chemicals. At low levels, these chemicals may cause cataracts, serious skin rashes, and decreases in white blood cells. At high levels, these chemicals may cause increased heart and breathing rates, and even death. These chemicals have been found in at least 61 of the 1,430 National Priorities List sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

    What are dinitrophenols?
    (Pronounced di-ni'tro-fee'nolz)

    Dinitrophenols are a class of manufactured chemicals that do not occur naturally in the environment. There are six different dinitrophenols.

    The most commercially important dinitrophenol, 2,4-di-nitrophenol (DNP), is a yellow solid with no smell. It is used in making dyes, wood preservatives, explosives, insect control substances, and other chemicals, and as a photographic developer.

    It was used in diet pills in the 1930s but was banned for this use in 1938. It may be sold under several trade names, including Caswell No. 392, Sulfo Black B, and Nitro Kleenup. Use of trade names is for identification only and does not imply endorsement by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, the Public Health Service, or the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

    What happens to dinitrophenols when they enter the environment?

    DNP enters the air, water, and soil during its manufacture and use.
    It may be formed from reaction of other chemicals in the air.
    DNP may also enter the environment through landfill and storage tank leaks, or accidental spills during manufacture or transport.
    It dissolves slightly in water, and does not easily evaporate to air.
    It can be broken down slowly in water and soil by small organisms or by reacting with other chemicals.
    DNP sticks to particles in water, which will cause it to eventually settle to the bottom sediment.
    DNP also sticks to some types of soil particles, which may prevent it from moving very deep into the soil with rainwater.
    DNP probably does not build up significantly in fish.
    How might I be exposed to dinitrophenols?

    Breathing contaminated workplace air where it is manufactured or used.
    Breathing contaminated air from DNP-containing waste sites, waste incineration, or automobile exhaust.
    Touching contaminated soil or water near DNP-containing waste sites.
    Ingesting contaminated soil or water near DNP-containing waste sites.
    How can dinitrophenols affect my health?

    Most of the information on the health effects of dinitrophenols comes from old studies of patients who were prescribed diet pills containing dinitrophenol before it was banned.

    Deaths have occurred in people who ingested 3–46 milligrams of dinitrophenols per kilogram of body weight per day (3–46 mg/kg/day) for short periods, or 1–4 mg/kg/day for long periods. Also, people who breathed air containing 40 mg dinitrophenols per cubic meter of air (40 mg/m3) for long periods have died.

    The amount of dinitrophenols ingested that causes harmful effects varies among people. Increased basal metabolic rate (the rate that you use energy at complete rest), increased sweating, a feeling of warmth, weight loss, and increased heart rate, breathing rate, and body temperature have been observed in people who swallowed as little as 1 mg/kg/day or as much as 46 mg/kg/day for short or long periods of time.

    Ingesting 2–4 mg/kg/day DNP for short or long periods has caused cataracts in some people, while ingesting 1–4 mg/kg/day for short or long periods has caused skin rashes and decreases in white blood cells.

    How likely are dinitrophenols to cause cancer?

    The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), and the EPA have not classified dinitrophenols for carcinogenicity.

    There are no studies available in people or animals on the carcinogenic effects of dinitrophenols.

    Is there a medical test to show whether I've been exposed to dinitrophenols?

    Tests are available that measure the amount of DNPs or their breakdown products in blood, urine, and samples of tissue from the body. However, these tests may require special equipment and may not be available in your doctor’s office.

    Has the federal government made recommendations to protect human health?

    The EPA recommends that not more than 70 parts of dinitrophenols per billion parts of water (70 ppb) be present in lakes or streams used for swimming.

    The EPA lists DNPs as hazardous air pollutants (HAP) under the Clean Air Act. The EPA also requires that discharges or spills into the environment of 10 pounds or more be reported.


    Carcinogenicity: Ability to cause cancer.

    CAS: Chemical Abstracts Service.

    Cataract: A decrease in the transparency of eye lenses.

    Evaporate: To change into a vapor or a gas.

    Ingest: Take food or drink into your body.

    Kilogram (kg): One thousand grams.

    Milligram (mg): One thousandth of a gram.

    Sediment: Mud and debris that have settled to the bottom of a body of water.

    Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR). 1995. Toxicological profile for dinitrophenols. Atlanta, GA: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service.

    Where can I get more information?

    ATSDR can tell you where to find occupational and environmental health clinics. Their specialists can recognize, evaluate, and treat illnesses resulting from exposure to hazardous substances. You can also contact your community or state health or environmental quality department if you have any more questions or concerns.

    For more information, contact:

    Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
    Division of Toxicology
    1600 Clifton Road NE, Mailstop E-29
    Atlanta, GA 30333
    Phone: 1-888-422-8737
    FAX: (404)498-0057

    Even as a pesticide it has been banned as too toxic:


    The basic dinitrophenol molecule (Figure 11) has a broad range of toxicities--as herbicides, insecticides, ovicides, and fungicides. Of the insecticides, binapacryl (Morocide(r)) and dinocap (Karathane(r)) were the most recently used. Dinocap is an effective miticide and was very heavily used as a fungicide for the control of powdery mildew fungi. Because of the inherent toxicity of the dinitrophenols, they have all been withdrawn..

    Mode of action--Dinitrophenols act by uncoupling or inhibiting oxidative phosphorylation, which basically prevents the formation of the high-energy phosphate molecule, adenosine triphosphate (ATP).

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    Well todays been the 5th day not much has changed, i wkae up a bit light headed in the mornings but this is taken care of as soon as i have some fruit. I got a crate of melons,l i just eat them suckers through out the whole day and thats keeps me ok, drinkin water is not a problem, sometiems i wake up with a dry throat so i have to keep 2litre s of wtaer by me bedsite.
    Otherwise no real problems i think i have waited long enough, so starting tommorow i'm gonna jack it upto 400mg spaced 12 hours apart, so far i have felt hardly anything, I even took this week off as i expected to be Ko'D by the dnp but so fars not much has happened, hopefully i will get a better response from 400mg, Sometimes at nitgh i wake up and fear i am gonna cramp up but thats about it.
    Starting doing some cardio as well, didn't do the first few days as i was not sure how i was gonna respond to the dnp but its been ok nice nice session, i'm not sweating or burning up like u would on an eca stack, but today after a short strol i was breathing heavy so its good.

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    About this article the guy took 600mg staright away so he could have had an alergic reaction not known enough etc..
    I feel u should start out and do 200mg for 5 days then take from there and move up to 400mg if u feel comfortable ANd stay there dosen't matter if u don't shed loads of weight ya first cycle theres always next time once u are used to the effects of dnp on ya self.
    As far as it being banned in the late 30's i understand there was no reason given for this, if it was to be marketed today it would put alot of companies out ofnwork because this thing does work it has to be used properly and is not for everyone people that don't like to bepaitent and takes things slowly need nopt apply.
    The cataracts applies only to women and can be taken care of using the right supplementation if i understand correctly but u need to read up on this yaself.
    Also when people used it in the 1930's it was used for long periods of time like a few months.
    where as most peopl now adays use for about 2 weeks and thats it,i have yet to hear of a death thats related to dnp where it has been used sensibly.

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    Today was a warmer day woke up abit dehydrated was too tired to wake up and drink during the night.
    Have to say if u can manage to wkae up and drink something and nod back off every 2-3 hrs u feel allthe better for it.
    The weather here has gone a bit more humid, which is cool for me i am actaully starting to feel a sweat, had an instense workout got a good pump too, so as far as i am concerned 200mg is a doseage i would run for an extended period of time like maybe a month.
    But tommrrow i'm gonna see what happens at 400mg, i'll try this for 5 days if all goes well and if that is ok i may even try 600mg for 2-3 days depending how the 400mg goes.
    But after this week i have no real qulams about doing 200mg the only foreseable problems i can think of on this doseage is maybe an alergy or something.
    But its nice sitting here writning this and sweating.
    Yet to feel totally terrible on this feel pretty good so far

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    400 mg has been a blast u can really feel it workin as far as i am concerned thing is it doesn't make it possible for me to goto work at 400 mg a day so i'm ending the cycle right now
    will do another short cycle in couple of weeks when i ahve a few days off
    but anyway so far i ahve lost nealry a 3/4 of an inch iof my arms me upper body def looks more toned will know better in a few days.
    I would say as long as u are not alergic to the stuff DNP is the way to go for the fat loss do a lower doseage if the sides scare u
    But ya gotta love to drink wate ron this thats all
    whic was finbe with me cus i love the water

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    How much weight did you lose on this DNP cycle?

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    I am gonna get weighed this friday, but as far as size goes i lost 3/4 of an inch off me arms and ~ an inch off me waist and 1 inch off me waist.
    About actual weight i will let u know end of the week, but i def looks more vascular, i'm gonna try and do a more heavier cycle next month now that i know how i react to it.

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    Update i wieghed myself today and it seems i lost 5 1/2 lbs
    thats pretty cool i reckon since i was playing around with the dnp my first time to see how i reacted to it

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    Well, taking "that" for 5 and 1/2 pounds, i still think is overkill. U coulda done a keto diet for 2 weeks and gotten that.

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    Well as this was my first time i had to test my reaction to the stuff
    I wouldn't call it overkill i actually prefered the Dnp to a keto diet i don't mind feelin hot but i hate the lightheaded ness of the keto diet.
    I feel dnp gets bashed around for the wrong reasons yep its a bit risky but its pretty ok as long as u take with care.
    As for the keto diet maybe u would drop 5 lbs after 2 weeks but some of it will be water weight and unless u do shitloads of cardio u are not gonna drop that much.

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    DNP and keto diet

    Originally posted by gotenks
    i actually prefered the Dnp to a keto diet i don't mind feelin hot but i hate the lightheaded ness of the keto diet.
    Do it with a keto diet. That's what I want to try. In my first week of a keto diet I usually drop 10 pounds (that's after a few weeks of Beer ... gotta love that beer).

    I've been wanting to try DNP with a keto diet and see how lean I can get. What I'm concerned about is loosing muscle mass. How's you strength doing Gotenks? From what I've read you'll be a little weaker on the stuff but does your strength come back? Do you loose and fullness in your muscles? Are you retaining any extra water?
    Last edited by demetri; 05-20-2002 at 09:07 AM.

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    I have done the Keto diet as well but i prefer the DNP one, i had good results as well on the keto diet i tend to watch how my defintion changes rather than keep an eye on me actual weight, while on the DNP my strength stayed the same when i increased the dose it did go down a bit but nuthin major, but id strat to get soreness of the muscles etc..
    and they looked a bit flat while i was on it but they filled out a coupk of days later, i think cus i stuck to relatively low doses i didn't get that much of a bloat nnot one i could tell about anyway, i'm gonna run another cycle in about 2 weeks but this time i'm gonna run a keto diet a week prior then hit the dnp when i'm in ketosis and start carbing up when on the dnp this should be interesting i think.
    But i've read u risk go hyperglycemic when on the Keto and dnp, only thing i have against the keto diet is for work i need to be auick thinking at all times and the keto diet makes me sluggish.
    And yep the strenght seems to have come back so its all cool.
    Water i think i reatianed a bit but it was ok again after a few days but thing is i'm a big water drinker anywa so it didn't really effect me that much me urine only wnet yellow really when i didn't get enough water in other wis it wasn't bright yellow or nuthin.
    My next cycle will be:
    1 wk keto diet
    1wk dnp
    should be interesting

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