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    Great improvement and props on keeping such a strict log. I can't believe you are still so lean after eating 5000+ calories a day!

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    Good job bro good job. :spudnik4:

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    Quote Originally Posted by boondockSAINT
    Great improvement and props on keeping such a strict log. I can't believe you are still so lean after eating 5000+ calories a day!

    I put nitrous on my metabolism.


    Eh, i dunno what it is tho. I literally have never worked abs in my life to any extent (situps here and there in gym class and such, nothin big), and i did absolutely no cardio at all during my cycle. I do no cardio at all period, to be honest. Good genetics for staying lean, but its really friggin tough to put on muscle. Anyho, thanks for the comments guys, keep em comin!

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    Hard to believe no ab work or cardio. Great gains on cycle, gotta call bs on one thing though. The 520 shrugs have to be on one of those bs slider machines because as much improvement as you made the traps still have a lot of room to grow and 520 free weights is a major shrug. Keep up the hard work bro, the natural abs will carry you along way as you continue to add mass.

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    great job brother, remember to keep saying your prayers and taking your vitamins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackman 37
    Hard to believe no ab work or cardio. Great gains on cycle, gotta call bs on one thing though. The 520 shrugs have to be on one of those bs slider machines because as much improvement as you made the traps still have a lot of room to grow and 520 free weights is a major shrug. Keep up the hard work bro, the natural abs will carry you along way as you continue to add mass.

    Honest to god, no ab work at all, no cardio. Hell, i jogged a mile yesterday just for the hell of it and was winded after 1/4 mile. Cardio is something i gotta start doin tho.

    As far as traps, i didnt do a trap shot, and didnt flex traps in any of my shots if you notice. I do shrug 520lbs, its on a 50lb olympic bar, and i do it on a squat rack. I probably dont bring it up as far as possible, maybe 1/2" to 1" from peak shrug contraction, but i found it made my traps grow, so i stuck with it. They are fast reps, not slow, if that makes it any more 'believable', but nevertheless, i aint lyin.

    thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hed
    Thanks guys. Worked my ass off.
    I also agree with not being ready for a cycle, but **** dude, you're looking swole.

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    Yea, i look back now and see that i was not physically ready, but i KNEW that i had the knowledge to do it, the diet, and the training routine. I think now im at the point where you guys would tell me that i would be ready for juice, physically i mean. Cant wait to start my 2nd cycle........same documentation, except with full diet layout, and more gear of course.

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    good gains man... lookin lean... are you trying to stay lean on ur next cycle? or just bulk up (including bodyfat increases)??? i'm guessing lean since your going with EQ...???

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    Ya, stay lean like this but just overall more muscular.

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    good luck man... i'm following a similar plan as you... the dbol for 8-10 weeks at 10 mg AM and then take a month off of everything and hit up a decent one next winter...

    keep us posted... would love to know how that dbol works out for you if you do end up taking it.........

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    Oh, if i do the dbol bridge, it will be documented like my cycle, thats for sure.

    Thanks for the encouragement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hed
    Oh, if i do the dbol bridge, it will be documented like my cycle, thats for sure.

    Thanks for the encouragement
    Why bridge with dianabol ? That would be a total waste, and there are much more suitable compounds for the task at hand...

    An example would be anavar . That is less supressive than dianabol (but supressive nonetheless, regardless of what some people say).
    Anavar would yield better results without the bloat, and the gains you achieved while bridging your cycle would be quality solid mass, instead of water bloat from dbol...

    Regardless of that, you made great gains, and forth effort as a steroid newbie that all people should admire. Other newbs considering a first cycle should take note of how you researched/completed this cycle!

    Congrats on the effort/achievement!

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    This is what i read on dbol bridging, correct it if need be, thanks:

    Written by Fonz from EF
    This is a good read on dbol bridgeing from Fonz should answer alot of your questions.

    D-bol Bridge Explained by Fonz
    I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
    bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
    First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.

    Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
    to RECOVER.

    Ok, now having said that.
    Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
    brand name Dianabol .

    10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
    by 50-70%.

    The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
    its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
    benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
    its androgenic mode of action.
    Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
    function, thus STRENGTH.

    OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
    dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

    When are testosterone levels highest?

    Answer: In the AM, thats when.

    Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
    This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

    When are Insulin levels lowest?

    Answer: In the AM thats when.

    Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
    (Also fat, but protein is also being converted
    to glucose via glucogenesis)

    OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
    (Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

    Lets take Subject X.

    He's in bridging mode.
    He has just woken up.
    The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
    creating a spike.
    His insulin levels are low.
    His LH and test levels are very low.

    He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

    Here is where things get interesting.

    The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
    spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
    released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

    The body will be partially fooled.
    It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
    (above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
    REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

    In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
    thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

    Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
    RECOVER over time.
    Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
    in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

    HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

    You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
    for this bridge to work!!!!

    Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

    10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
    (Probably less)

    5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
    in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
    LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

    Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
    testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
    thus not allowing LH function to recover.

    Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

    The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
    between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

    So, here's the scenario summed up:

    Beginning: LOW LH and test.

    Adding the 10mgs dball.

    LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
    testosterone levels are kept at a level which
    will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
    will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
    reduction)

    This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
    INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
    catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

    The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
    I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
    complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
    of the way there but the only way you're going
    to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
    completely.
    Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
    (In case anybody is wondering.)
    The difference is that with anavar you can take it
    throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
    once in the AM.

    Hope that clears the air.

    Fonz

    Other than that, thanks for the props, my whole point of keeping all the log and information was to help any newbies out, cause this is the basic first cycle.

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    hella results brah!!! good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hed
    Honest to god, no ab work at all, no cardio. Hell, i jogged a mile yesterday just for the hell of it and was winded after 1/4 mile. Cardio is something i gotta start doin tho.

    As far as traps, i didnt do a trap shot, and didnt flex traps in any of my shots if you notice. I do shrug 520lbs, its on a 50lb olympic bar, and i do it on a squat rack. I probably dont bring it up as far as possible, maybe 1/2" to 1" from peak shrug contraction, but i found it made my traps grow, so i stuck with it. They are fast reps, not slow, if that makes it any more 'believable', but nevertheless, i aint lyin.

    thanks guys.
    As long as they are making the traps bigger it doesn't matter how you do them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackman 37
    As long as they are making the traps bigger it doesn't matter how you do them.

    Yep, im doin different shrugs right now (using the bar that you actually stand in) and seated dumbbell shrugs. Seems to work the traps a bit better when combined with upright rows to finish it off.

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    Bump, just for ****s.

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    good goin hed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hed
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    Cycle Log




    What I would change: I would get more sleep. Being at college it’s a tough schedule, but I know I didn’t get as much sleep as I could have. Also, I would keep total track of my diet. I did good on my diet and have no regrets, but I would have liked to keep track of it day-by-day on a site like www.fitday.com. Next cycle I plan on doing that. Also, I wish I had used cocoa butter and vitamen E from the start, as I got stretch marks on the tops of my biceps and under my armpits. They are not real noticeable, but if I raise my arms you can see them.
    Excellent work bro! Is your fitday journal public? I'd be interested in looking at your diet. You and I are built about the same (prior to for your) and am having a hard a** time growing.

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    Obviously the cycle worked well for you and you put on a good amount of muscle but here's my question, and it's not meant as any kind of flame -how does one put 2.75 inches on one's waist and it not be at least partially fat? I always freak if I add more than in inch to my waist on a cycle, since I always assume it's entirely water and/or fat but people tell me I shouldn't. I mean how much muscle is there around a person's waist in the first place that gear could add to? You mentioned you didn't work your abs, so I would think it wasnt increased muscle yet you don't look like you have put on fat, although it looks to me like you're retaining a bit of water in the pix.

    I'm wondering if you had your bodyfat levels checked before and after the cycle?

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    good job bro, but the bridge is a bad idea. come off the juice, make a pct and take ur time. ur body needs a rest.

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    Nice work.

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    Hey bitch, post some new pics.

    Someone referred you to HC.

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    You did a frontload right ?

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    Thanks very much for the detailed info.

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    You look good man seriously. I just don't notice that much of a difference personally. On the "before" picture you are not really flexing and the picture is from farther away or a different angle, then the "after" picture you look like you just lifted, flexing harder and the pic is taken closer. Don't get me wrong, you are in great shape and that alone is something to be proud of and I commend you for it but, there really doesnt look like a 23 LBM gain IMO, maybe 5lbs. Keep liftin man. No flame intended.
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    omg big difrence man

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    Did you get any acne from that cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    You look good man seriously. I just don't notice that much of a difference personally. On the "before" picture you are not really flexing and the picture is from farther away or a different angle, then the "after" picture you look like you just lifted, flexing harder and the pic is taken closer. Don't get me wrong, you are in great shape and that alone is something to be proud of and I commend you for it but, there really doesnt look like a 23 LBM gain IMO, maybe 5lbs. Keep liftin man. No flame intended.
    this looks like 5lbs. Are we looking at the same picture? Look at the difference in the arms and shoulders. Chest could use a lil more work but that is a lot more than 5lbs there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    this looks like 5lbs. Are we looking at the same picture? Look at the difference in the arms and shoulders. Chest could use a lil more work but that is a lot more than 5lbs there.
    This is how cell-tech is sold, lol. No, Im just playin man but, look at the picture, first of all, like I said, he isnt flexing as hard in the first pic and it is taken from further away, then in the second pic he is flexing harder and probly is pumped from lifting adn it is taken closer. look at the other pictures, Anyone can have their opinion but, that is not a 20(ish) pound gain.

    I seriously hope there is a more noticeable difference in myself than that when I go on.
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    Dont get me wrong HE IS IN GOOD SHAPE!!!


    but, where is the difference in this pic besides him just flexing harder and the angle?

    again, you are lookin good bro, seriously.
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