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    Then and Now

    Here are shots from pre-gear mid 1998 until mid 2002 after 2nd cycle. I am just starting my 3rd REAL cycle. This will be my most aggressive yet. Goal is 185 and -8%BF. I will add the AFTER pics in June. Any suggestions are appreciated.
    Current stats: 36 years old, 168 #, 12%BF.
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    NEXT!

    This cycle looks like:

    wk1 280mg SUS/300mg Deca /600mg Ena/600mg Durabolin
    wk2 280mg SUS/300mg Deca/600mg Ena/600mg Durabolin
    wk3 280mg SUS/300mg Deca/500mg Ena/500mg Durabolin
    wk4 280mg SUS/300mg Deca/500mg Ena/500mg Durabolin
    wk5 280mg SUS/300mg Deca/400mg Ena/400mg Durabolin
    wk6 280mg SUS/300mg Deca/400mg Ena/400mg Durabolin + clen ED
    wk7 280mg SUS/300mg Deca/300mg Ena/300mg Durabolin + clen ED + T3 ED
    wk8 280mg SUS/300mg Ena/550mg Durabolin + clen ED + T3 ED + Winny Tabs ED
    wk9 280mg SUS/300mg Ena/500mg Durabolin + T3 ED + Winny Tabs ED
    wk10 280mg SUS/200mg Ena/450mg Durabolin + T3 ED + Winny Tabs ED
    wk11 280mg SUS/150mg Ena/400mg Durabolin + T3 ED + Winny Tabs ED
    wk12 280mg SUS/100mg Ena/300mg Durabolin + clen ED + Winny Tabs ED
    wk13 100mg Ena/200mg Durabolin + clen ED + Winny Tabs ED + 2000mg HCG
    wk14 200mg Durabolin + clen ED + 2000mg HCG
    wk15 200mg HCG + Start Clomid.
    wk 16 Clomid
    wk 17 Clomid
    (Arimidex all the way through & Nolvadex when needed)

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    bro ur picks are a little to close for comfort there .ur cycle is confucsoin the wya u have it posted .

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    No offense or confusion intended...

    dictionary & typing lessons suggested...

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    2 cycles? i look better than u before doin a cycle man???

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    Originally posted by Magicz
    2 cycles? i look better than u before doin a cycle man???
    there is no room for that crap here. if your such a big man post some pics
    JLI

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    hey magicz

    no need for that. most of us look better than you ,but we don't talk shit.give the guy a break.

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    Originally posted by CLWgymJOCK
    No offense or confusion intended...

    dictionary & typing lessons suggested...


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    No offence, but you could have done that naturally. 5lbs off a cycle?
    You sure you gettin real shit?
    Id watch out more, and if youre showing us the pics that low, shave!!

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    Id watch out more, and if youre showing us the pics that low, shave!!

    I second that motion.

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    shit i just saw that

    yeah.what is the point of sending a fucking picture naked?!that screams perv.now i'm not defending you again.

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    errr...

    how do I say this diplomatically?

    After 4 long years you have only gained 15lb and simply look like a slighly larger version of 1998.

    About time you got serious.

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    mate,where are ure boxers?!!!11111

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    I do see a difference between the pics. well in my opinion you look like you did gain lb. You look more filled in in your 2002 pic. But, in 4 Years to only gain 15lb is a bit low. Are you going heavy enough on your workouts? How many days a week do you work out. Are you eating enough and keeping the protien high? Also you might want to see if the gear you are getting is real. Good luck keep pushing yourself harder and come back with more pics. Good LUck

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    Nice physique and slow steady gains that's the way you keep it 5 lbs here ten lbs there etc....

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    I've only done two SMALL cycles of Cyp, Enanthate with Deca or Eq. I have been as high as 175 but lost it when off the cycle. I am happy with the results for what little AS I have done and being a VERY skinny 140 in 1996. The last picture is after two months off the stuff and I kept what I gained. As I've gone along, I have tried to educate myself on what would be my best approach. I work for a company that has specific strict policy against the use of steroids so I have to be careful about looking obvious. I have gotten LOTS of opinions and most seem to contridict the others. The next cycle listed above is what I have learned from different advice. My diet is 3000 - 3200 per day 40% <a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a>, 40% carbs & 40% fat. I am doing an "anabolic workout" that I read about on another board. I am told it is the right approach for my cycle, 2 on 1 off. NO cardio. At 8 weeks I will change. I dont want to be HUGE. 185 and lean what I would like to see this year. Next year, who knows...

    As far as the pictures go - my appologies for offending. Most posing suits show more than what is visible in my pics although the guys wearing them have shaved. I guess I should have cropped it to my navel. I have removed the picture so no one else will be offended.
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    Sounds like you've done your research and have a good plan ahead.

    Good luck, bro.

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    Personally I think you are taking too much. I know people have all bunch of different opinions and all. But you are taking 4 different things, the Sustanon , Enanthate , EQ and Deca ? Why take BOTH of each? Those are all kinda like the same thing there. Wouldn't it be better to do just one ore two tests but at a higher dose? Do sus or enanthate and bump it up to 750mg+ or so. And stick with EQ at about 600mg for about 14 weeks.

    That's just my opinion bro, u are obviously gonna do what ever you want. Best of luck to ya.

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    You should keep the pics up. I wasn't offended I just thought it was kind of gay. Offend away I say.

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    I think you misread or I wasnt clear. I did Enanthate and Deca my first cycle (low amounts). I did Sus and Eq my second (low amounts). I didnt do all of them at the same time.

    I dont have good connections so I do what I can get.

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    your profile says you are about 170lb. and you said you do'nt want to get huge. you want to be about 185lb and lean. Ok here's what i recomend.

    1-eat 7 times a day high protien medium carbs
    2-INtake protien shakes
    3-if you want you can take Creatine ED
    4-Train hard, and sleep well

    Do all this and in about 5 months you should be able to gain about 5-10 lb of muslces. which would bring you up to 180lb. or maybe even 185lb. that's just my opinion. Or did you want to cycle again? I would say the reason why you lost your gains from the cycle is maybe because, now i'm not 100% on this but this is my opinion, maybe your depending on juice to make your gains. I could be wrong. And also don't forget the clomid. good luck with your results and keep us posted how you make out

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    Thank you!

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