** Metabolic Damage - Video **

[baseline_9]

Here are two videos by Layne Norton where he talks about metabolic damage....

I have not yet had time to watch the second one.... So let me know what u guys think....

Women...... Watch this!!!

[baseline_9]

[baseline_9]

Here u go, another video, I have already posted this one but worth re-posting in this thread

[951thompson]

Here's some more good info on the subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXWSmMnn7sM

[951thompson]

Here is a good video about reverse dieting to fix your metabolism

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t3ZekciEBu4

[951thompson]

Thanks for info base as always. im a bodybuilding student, I love this kind of shit

[energizer bunny]

Cheers for that base!!.......very interesting.

[GirlyGymRat]

Here are two videos by Layne Norton where he talks about metabolic damage....

I have not yet had time to watch the second one.... So let me know what u guys think....

Women...... Watch this!!!

Video Link: http://youtu.be/QHHzie6XRGk

I watched both. Very interesting. Thx!

[cj111]

Good videos man, thanks for the post.

[slfmade]

nice videos. Thanks

[alex.mitev]

Huge debate ongoing right now!!!
Im a hude fan of layne but lyle calls him out with valid argument, layne replies making jokes of lyle's mother. Go see a second opinion

[951thompson]

Huge debate ongoing right now!!!
Im a hude fan of layne but lyle calls him out with valid argument, layne replies making jokes of lyle's mother. Go see a second opinion

Where and when was this?

[alex.mitev]

It's on fb, right now! Lyle keeps on posting strong points while layne remains silent. Lyle says metaboluc damage is bullsh....and backs it up. Askung layne to provide single scientific proof of what he claims!

[951thompson]

It's on fb, right now! Lyle keeps on posting strong points while layne remains silent. Lyle says metaboluc damage is bullsh....and backs it up. Askung layne to provide single scientific proof of what he claims!

Ooo sounds interesting, will have to check it out. Think we all agree if you eat at a heavy deficit for a long period of time your metabolism will slow. Good advice from layne in the above video imo.

[GirlyGymRat]

It's on fb, right now! Lyle keeps on posting strong points while layne remains silent. Lyle says metaboluc damage is bullsh....and backs it up. Askung layne to provide single scientific proof of what he claims!

Who do you believe????

[GirlyGymRat]

Who do you believe????

I see it now......

[alex.mitev]

U have to bebon my computer to say who i believe. In general, people dont spare enough time to see results. They say it's nit working and look to change. If u binge in the meantume u can gain 10 lb for a day and fall unto the delusion youre gaining fat in least possible calories. Its mental not physical damage been there too.As u get leaner your expenditure decreases - smaller body requires less calories no doubt.

[alex.mitev]

Phone is terrible, hope u guys understand

[GirlyGymRat]

Phone is terrible, hope u guys understand

I have the same issue with phone. Dang thing doesn't spell right

[GirlyGymRat]

U have to bebon my computer to say who i believe. In general, people dont spare enough time to see results. They say it's nit working and look to change. If u binge in the meantume u can gain 10 lb for a day and fall unto the delusion youre gaining fat in least possible calories. Its mental not physical damage been there too.As u get leaner your expenditure decreases - smaller body requires less calories no doubt.

I can see how it can happen to competitors especially women. I was eating less then 1000 cal when I came here. Increased to 1600 and lost 40 lbs..

[energizer bunny]

bump for any opinions on this......Baseline, Gbrice, 405, BIB, alex anyone! ???


opinions on lyle vs layne on this subject, i dont have facebook lol.............though im very interested.

cheers

[jimmyinkedup]

I have a lot of respect for Layne but I dont buy this.

[951thompson]

I have a lot of respect for Layne but I dont buy this.

Why do you not agree with layne jimmy? I've just come off a very restrictive diet and have just started following laynes advice after I watched this video, im slowly gradually increasing my calories as he advises.

Why do you think this advise is bogus?

I don't know what Lyles views are on this, if someone would like to fill me in?

[951thompson]

This is lyles opinion on the matter
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...damage-qa.html
http://www.bodyactive-nation.co.uk/a...-follow-up-q-a

[jimmyinkedup]

Why do you not agree with layne jimmy? I've just come off a very restrictive diet and have just started following laynes advice after I watched this video, im slowly gradually increasing my calories as he advises.

Why do you think this advise is bogus?

I don't know what Lyles views are on this, if someone would like to fill me in?

I never said the word bogus. I just dont buy into his theory. I dont see how its even physiologically possible.

[951thompson]

I don't think Lyle disputes metabolic slowdown when eating in a deficit, because they is data to back that up.his issue is with what layne was saying about girls putting on bodyfat eating at 800cals per day. Lyle believes this is impossible on the base of energy expenditure.

[jimmyinkedup]

I don't think Lyle disputes metabolic slowdown when eating in a deficit, because they is data to back that up.his issue is with what layne was saying about girls putting on bodyfat eating at 800cals per day. Lyle believes this is impossible on the base of energy expenditure.

This is exactly what im referring too as well.

[951thompson]

This is exactly what im referring too as well.

Right fair do im with you I thought you had a problem with the idea of reverse dieting, im interested because this is what im doing at the moment. I was thinking maybe you had some information that might change my mind about following this the idea

[Java Man]

Very interesting

[alex.mitev]

I don`t buy it either. I`m a huge fan of Layne, everybody on 800 calories doing 2 hours of cardio will lose weight and achieve contest shape. They either don`t give them enough time or don`t report correctly their food intake. Also get freaked with water weight.
And here`s where Layne goes marginally wrong (and he knows it) - nobody gains weight while in deficit. The Minnesota study is pretty explicit - even after 6 months of dieting on severe deficit 50%, metabolic slow down accounts for 15% of the initial rate.
There`s no much more that could be said.
As for adding food slowly - well 5-7 gr a week is irrelevant! However, 50 gr a week could be beneficial and helpful in terms of prevented water weight gains, stable blood sugar, psychological aspect.
That`s my .2 cents though.

[baseline_9]

I don`t buy it either. I`m a huge fan of Layne, everybody on 800 calories doing 2 hours of cardio will lose weight and achieve contest shape. They either don`t give them enough time or don`t report correctly their food intake. Also get freaked with water weight.
And here`s where Layne goes marginally wrong (and he knows it) - nobody gains weight while in deficit. The Minnesota study is pretty explicit - even after 6 months of dieting on severe deficit 50%, metabolic slow down accounts for 15% of the initial rate.
There`s no much more that could be said.
As for adding food slowly - well 5-7 gr a week is irrelevant! However, 50 gr a week could be beneficial and helpful in terms of prevented water weight gains, stable blood sugar, psychological aspect.
That`s my .2 cents though.

Although on paper I'd tend to agree, I simply don't think that layne is just making this whole thing up......

[alex.mitev]

I dont think layne is making this up either. My strong belief is that people mis-report their food intake.
Ive seen people/females reporting exactly 800 calories along 1 hour cardio 7 days a week. I did not know what to do more. Now a year later i get to know she was in deep distress and secretly bindging on 5k plus calories every 4 th day or so.