Thread: Clomid vs. HGC
07-28-2004, 12:05 AM #1
Clomid vs. HGC
whats the best PCT? I mentioned Clomid the other day to a 5 year cycler and he said that he didnt mess with Clomid he just did HCG .. i can get HGC for $10 @ 5000iu and clomid isnt too bad either off IBE.. I just started my first cycle and i have like 9 more weeks to find out what kind of PCT Im gonna use.. help me out
Last edited by GetSwole112; 07-28-2004 at 12:28 AM.
07-28-2004, 12:06 AM #2
07-28-2004, 12:09 AM #3
HCG will not recover HPTA........... HCG's job is to mimic LH so to get the testes out of a state of atrophy. Doing so will make using Clomid's job a lot easier in helping getting LH and FSH levels up to get your natural hormone back up.
HCG = Mimics LH, use before PCT
Clomid = Raises LH to restore HPTA, use for PCT
I use this at minimum for PCT clomid/nolva/l-dex
Last edited by TheMudMan; 07-28-2004 at 12:11 AM.
07-28-2004, 12:31 AM #4
My layout is Finaplix @ 60mg EOD for 12 weeks and my Class II stack is D-Bol @ 20-30mg ED for 8 weeks
I heard the Fina isnt a good 1st cycle.. but on my source page i heard it was ok if i used 50mg ED
07-28-2004, 12:37 AM #5Senior Member
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You are correct fina is not a good first cycle. You need test as a base.
07-28-2004, 12:47 AM #6
07-28-2004, 07:44 AM #7Originally Posted by GetSwole112
07-28-2004, 10:05 AM #8Originally Posted by TheMudMan
Hey Mudman, did I read that taking l-dex and clomid at the same time was bad for you, or worked against eachother or somthing like that? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'll try to find the thread.
07-28-2004, 10:13 AM #9
07-28-2004, 10:14 AM #10
This was posted by Peedno many months ago:
Here you go, allthough this study was done with Letro, both have the same mechanism of action so it's applicable to L-dex
Aromatase inhibitors in men
The effect of aromatase inhibition on male gonadotrophin and sex steroid concentrations is illustrated in the paper by Trunet et al. (1993): 2.5 mg letrozole suppressed plasma oestradiol concentrations to less than 50% of pretreatment after 2 days, with recovery to approximately pretreatment values after 6 days. These decreases were accompanied by increased gonadotrophin concentrations, with resultant increases of approximately 50% in plasma testosterone . These results, and those previously published (Bhatnagar et al. 1992) on the effects of fadrozole in men, indicate that the aromatization pathway is of major importance in the regulation of gonodotrophin secretion by aromatically androgens
07-28-2004, 10:16 AM #11
07-28-2004, 03:31 PM #12
07-28-2004, 04:52 PM #13
07-28-2004, 07:33 PM #14Originally Posted by buylongterm
07-29-2004, 05:17 PM #15
07-29-2004, 06:03 PM #16
nonono! Hcg after the cycle! Or else you can **** it up -HCG is an anti estrogene- I was on a deca and sust cycle and a good friend told me -Clomid during the cycle-Hcg inject 3 weeks after testosterone inject and about 4 week's after injecting deca..I waited about 4week's after the cycle.A 13 week's cycle.Took 2 5000iu Hcg during 2 week's.Trust me Bro-I didn't "fell" at all!Noting!I felt great and i still do-So i strongly recomend HCG and Clomid!My friend take's 1 clomid pill eatch day during a cycle...Dat's My WorD!Peace!
07-29-2004, 06:52 PM #17Originally Posted by peterock
07-29-2004, 06:54 PM #18
07-29-2004, 06:56 PM #19Originally Posted by peterock
no.,.......... to much data on this subject... the short answer has already been stated.. HCG during cycle.. and clomid PCT...
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07-30-2004, 06:58 AM #20Junior Member
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I don't know for sure what to believe ,but the instructions included in Hcg reports that you have to stop Testosterone administration during Hcg therapy .Also it reports that for better results you can administrate clomiphene citrate (clomid) at the same time with Hcg .
These instructions are official and checked from the Drug foundation.
Can someone tell what to believe ?
07-30-2004, 07:19 AM #21Originally Posted by Tourk
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