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    1 testosterone ester and 4-adrostendiol ester cause gyno?

    I'am currently taking a product called T-Bol which is the combination....17 Hydrxyandrost-1-ene-3-one Ester(1-testosterone ) and 4-androstendiol. Iam prone to gyno and am looking for a supplement which will help me gain mass and strength without the possibility of getting gyno. While using T-Bol iam also using 6-oxo. Will these prohormones cause gyno?

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    yes its possible
    you can run Nolvadex at like 10mg aday during your cycle
    to help prevent gyno

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    no need to take nolvadex while on the cycle because neither of the 2 (1test///4ad) convert to estrogen while taking them.... afterwords... could b a differnt story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemoney
    no need to take nolvadex while on the cycle because neither of the 2 (1test///4ad) convert to estrogen while taking them.... afterwords... could b a differnt story.

    ?????????????? since when does 4ad not convert to estrogen?

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    and yes you should run nolva at 10mg ed throughout your cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    ?????????????? since when does 4ad not convert to estrogen?
    It always has, take nolva.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    ?????????????? since when does 4ad not convert to estrogen?

    sarcasm....

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    why does it say "No Estrogen Conversion" on the bottle?

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    I would take femara with it u probably wont get gyno and
    you will be dry as a bone.

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    4-androstenedione converts to estrogen but the "diol" version does not aka 4-androsteneDIOL...... if u have a link to sumwere were theirs research on it that it does post it cuz thats not what ive learnt from boards n ressearch sites.

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    yes 4 andro diol does not directly convert to estrogen but it converts into testosterone which then converts to estrogen

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    is the conversion to estrogen mild with this case?

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    more mild than actual test because of the lower dose but you should still run nolva at 10mg ED throughout

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