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    Jun 2004

    Whats the difference between 4-ad and Androstenedione?

    I was just curious, I bought these supplements that came with M1T, 4-derm, and Androstenedione?

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    androstenedione is now illegal to possess whoever sold it to you shouldnt have. Basically andro"dione started it all it was the first one they had found that converted to testosterone . But It is a really weak conversion rate assuming you inject it for 100% absorbtion only 5% of it gets turned into test. ANd on top of that a good % of it turns into estrogen right away. Now 4 ad is what the scientists came out with they tweaked androstendione and make its conversion stronger up to 15% and threw a diol version instead of a dione so it doesnt directly convert to estrogen first.

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