Best OTC fat burner out....

[Doc40]

What have you guys used that has been effective. Thanks, Doc.

[Giantz11]

Plain old EC stack add either Apsrin or Yohimbine HCL and you are money.

[Angel of death]

clen ****in buterol

[nsa]

clen ****in buterol

Considering that clen isn't over the counter and that it destroys cardiac tissue i would say no. IMO the best OTC fat burner is Ephedrine and Thermorexin stack...

[macrophage69alpha]

Considering that clen isn't over the counter and that it destroys cardiac tissue i would say no. IMO the best OTC fat burner is Ephedrine and Thermorexin stack...

somewhat agree (though Clen dose at which cardiac apoptis occurs and whether it presents in humans is debatable)

and agree.

[O.M.E.G.A]

Considering that clen isn't over the counter and that it destroys cardiac tissue i would say no. I...

I agree 1000% with this post

clen is a waste of time, and bad for you.

[decadbal]

clen may be bad for u... its def not a waste of time.. it works great..

[Kärnfysikern]

yohimbine works good but dont run it to long. Made my kidneys hurt also read mentions that it works as a toxin during prolonged used. Cant try to find more about that if anyone is interested.

b vitamins are important for metabolism so they should always be suplemented migth do a difference in the long run.

Chrome, r-ala, cinnamon can make a BIG difference if you have low insulin sensitivity(like if you are just finished bulking).

Other then that the good old ECA works like a charm.

[SplinterCell]

I love the money ECA stack...Lipo-6 isint that bad either though Id take the ECA stack over it any day of the week....

[bluelightning3]

Right now im taking mega pro's vasopro ephedrine 25mg and caffeine 200mg 30 min before i work out and its really working good for fat loss not to mention the mental focus. I got it from allsportsnutrition.com. Really cheap when you compare it to other so called fat burners.

[prolangtum]

ephedrine, SesaThin, and high dose fish oil

[macrophage69alpha]

sesamin and fish oil (DHA/EPA) are excellent additions to any fat loss stack, though they may be more effective at reducing fat gain than increasing losses (ppar-a)

[Squatman51]

ephedrine hcl and lipo 6 worked good and some cla

[macrophage69alpha]

ephedrine hcl and lipo 6 worked good and some cla

if you need to add ephedrine to a caffeine based fat burner its not very good. Its also unwise to stack oral ephedrine,synephine and yohimbine for BP and cardio vascular reasons.

Thermorexin, which has all the ingredient in lipo-6 (except the progestenic-anti-androgenic , otherwise inactive, guggulsterones) and significantly more as well. the MC stack within thermorexin (an SMYC stack) has the same metabolic benefits as EC.

With respect to CLA, the research is quite conflicted. With some studies showing efficacy of dual isomer, though biochemically a single isomer CLA would be more effective. IMHO its of questionable worth at best, though some people do really beleive in it.