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    endurance during workouts (chest)

    anybody have problems of not having any endurance in terms of working out?? i tend to only have this problem with chest. for instance today i did chest at my gym. i started with incline dumbell presses and got up to 90lbs dumbells for 7. i did about 5 sets all together including 1 warmup. so then i go to flat bench barbell and was doing 185 only like 3 times. the problem here is that the week before when i was fresh and started workout with flat bench barbell, i could do 185 15x's. after a few intense sets of my workout, its like my strength just gets cut in half. my buddy told me to start doing cardio more, i was thinking this would help because im bulking right now and dont do it at all....u guys think cardio will help this or do i need something else??
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    try 1.5-2mins inbetween each set

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    bump for more responses

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDfromGC
    anybody have problems of not having any endurance in terms of working out?? i tend to only have this problem with chest. for instance today i did chest at my gym. i started with incline dumbell presses and got up to 90lbs dumbells for 7. i did about 5 sets all together including 1 warmup. so then i go to flat bench barbell and was doing 185 only like 3 times. the problem here is that the week before when i was fresh and started workout with flat bench barbell, i could do 185 15x's. after a few intense sets of my workout, its like my strength just gets cut in half. my buddy told me to start doing cardio more, i was thinking this would help because im bulking right now and dont do it at all....u guys think cardio will help this or do i need something else??
    "after a few intense sets of my workout, its like my strength just gets cut in half." yup, thats pretty much how it works. i cant comphrehend why you expect to still be at peak performance after 4 working sets?

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    This is what I do. What ever muscle group I want to hit the Best I do it first. That way I can do the most weight in that area. Like IronReload said that is just how it works. One thing that might help is CHECK YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!!! J/K Its not how much weight its how good you work out that muscle. Eventualy the weight will get higher after the 4th set. But even then you will want more(DONT WE ALL). Just keep at it bro your situation is very normal IMO.

    One other thing I always start with barbell first just a thought you might want to try out. I was told this helps with mass. Maybe some of the bros can back me up on this?

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    i have sustained energy throughout my workout when i take no-explode before it.. its a nitric oxide product and a creatine.. when my workouts over i want more.. i have so much energy i just wanna keep on training. but i dont want to overtrain, so i stop myself before i do soemthing dumb.

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    I usually max bench 345 and rep out 275 8 times but after doing 5 sets of dumbell incline I could only do 135 10 times... so yes, i felt like a huge vagina but I got an awesome workout.

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    What's your usual pre workout meal? Try eating a bowl of oatmeal 1-2 hrs beforehand.

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    Exactly! Eat those carbs before work out.... You can also throw in a day 3 exc. of 4 sets of 15 to 20 reps per set one in a great while to help with the endurance. Believe it or not you get a heck of a pump and it will help the endurance. Make sure to hit the reps tho, drop the weight if ya have to...........

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    I don't think eating oatmeal or taking whatever is going to matter that much. The incline and flat bench presses (dumbell or barbell) are not really all that different. Extend your arms out in front of you as if you were on a flat bench. Now extend your arms out in front of you as if you were on an incline bench. There is not much of a difference in your chest. You're muscles are just exhausted from lifting heavy. I don't think cardio is going to help much at all (maybe something intense that increases your VO2 max, but even then not much). I eat carbs before doing chest. I do incline dumbell first, and then any presses I do after that are always weaker than when I start with them.

    It may help to switch to a fly movement before a second press movement. Also, try alternating starting presses each week. As long as you make gains in your starting press, who cares about the weight on the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbs-rule
    I don't think eating oatmeal or taking whatever is going to matter that much.

    Makes a huge difference for me. I'm dragging ass just to survive a workout if I don't eat right before I train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronReload04
    i cant comphrehend why you expect to still be at peak performance after 4 working sets?
    i dont recall saying "i expect to be at peak performance after 4 sets". i know strength will drop after a few sets, but i the amount it does for me didnt really seem right which is why i made this thread to see if its normal or if i was doing something wrong....


    Quote Originally Posted by redmeat
    What's your usual pre workout meal? Try eating a bowl of oatmeal 1-2 hrs beforehand.
    protein/carb combo about 45 mins before lifting. usually rice/bagel/oatmeal, and protein drink.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    I usually max bench 345 and rep out 275 8 times but after doing 5 sets of dumbell incline I could only do 135 10 times... so yes, i felt like a huge vagina but I got an awesome workout.
    i see, well i guess its normal, it just seems like the muscle isnt getting worked as hard when ur doing such a lower amount of weight later in the workout that u know u can do alot more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDfromGC
    i see, well i guess its normal, it just seems like the muscle isnt getting worked as hard when ur doing such a lower amount of weight later in the workout that u know u can do alot more...
    if you are truly going all out, your strength will be cut significantly after 1 set

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfade7
    i have sustained energy throughout my workout when i take no-explode before it.. its a nitric oxide product and a creatine.. when my workouts over i want more.. i have so much energy i just wanna keep on training. but i dont want to overtrain, so i stop myself before i do soemthing dumb.

    xfade7
    i am a huge doubter of no2.

    please post up your weights and reps for all your sets of a chest workout so we can see your intensity level of the weights you are using.

    i do 1 set per muscle and by the end of my workout, i feel like i just got back from a war

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDfromGC
    protein/carb combo about 45 mins before lifting. usually rice/bagel/oatmeal, and protein drink.....

    Ditch the rice and the bagel. Too much starch.

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    I would go through a phase of high volume training so your chest can adapt to higher workloads. Also, No-Xplode got me so fvcking pumped, I had to quit taking it. I felt like I was going to die, that's how jittery I was. Not too mention the god forsaken headaches that crap gave me. However, yes, it is a powerful stimulant!

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