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    got bloods back, not good, please advise!

    came off 2nd cycle of test e 500mg weekly and decca 400mg weekly for 12 weeks, pct ended 20th june and consisted of clomid, 50,50,50,50 tamox, 20,20,20,20 and exemestane 25,25,25,25 and used hcg on cycle 500i.u weekly.

    got bloods done last week and levels are as follows:

    Testosterone , Serum testosterone - 5.9nmol/L
    Range 8.4-28.7

    I asked for LH and FSH but they did not include these! buggers!

    Would just like some advice on where to go now, run another pct, get levels done again after that? hcg? advice most welcome, cheers guys

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    Did you just check your test level, concerning inner glands?

    And what about:

    INSULIN
    IGF-1
    CORTISOL
    HTG
    PRL
    FT3
    FT4
    TESTOSTERONE FREE
    SHBG
    ESTRADIOL 17-BETA
    PROGESTERONE
    FSH
    TSH
    LH
    DHEA
    DHEAS
    DHT
    HGH
    Last edited by BJJ; 10-19-2009 at 01:53 AM.

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    Critical details missing to advise?

    Quote Originally Posted by tinytom777 View Post
    came off 2nd cycle of test e 500mg weekly and decca 400mg weekly for 12 weeks, pct ended 20th june and consisted of clomid, 50,50,50,50 tamox, 20,20,20,20 and exemestane 25,25,25,25 and used hcg on cycle 500i.u weekly.

    got bloods done last week and levels are as follows:

    Testosterone , Serum testosterone - 5.9nmol/L
    Range 8.4-28.7

    I asked for LH and FSH but they did not include these! buggers!

    Would just like some advice on where to go now, run another pct, get levels done again after that? hcg? advice most welcome, cheers guys
    Why did you do a 12 week cycle? "Veterans" and "Senior Members" are posting all over to only do 8 week cycles any more. How much time did you wait before starting your PCT after your last aas administration? Because everyone is apparently doing it wrong according to "Senior Member" Pheedno who has the top posting in PCT that 62000 people have read, but apparently few are following.People are starting their PCT's way too early. PCT according to Pheedno starts after the aas is not active. Here is how long compounds are active:

    PCT start times
    Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

    Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
    Deca : 21 days after last injection
    Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
    Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
    Fina: 3 days after last injection
    Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
    Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Enanthate : 14 days after last injection
    Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
    Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
    Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07sandiegomuscle View Post
    Why did you do a 12 week cycle? "Veterans" and "Senior Members" are posting all over to only do 8 week cycles any more.
    what???? find one post where I advise only to do an 8 week cycle. find me one thread where a knowledgeable member advises only 8 weeks with a long ester. and how many more times can you paste Phedno's chart? I always advise proper PCT start times. Have you even cycled yet?
    Last edited by Big; 10-18-2009 at 11:12 PM.

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