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    Blood Test Recommendations/Guidance

    Hey Guys

    My mate just got his fasted bloods checked in the morning including cortisol... he is 22, 210 pounds and 11%bf at 5ft 8

    He had been running 750mg Test E for 19 weeks, and in the last 6 weeks added Tren A at 75mg EOD and Winstrol 80mg ED oral. Blood test was taken in Week 18 so after 5 weeks of tren and winstrol.

    His bloods are as follows with areas of concern bolded and in red with avg range of values in brackets.

    He also had a 24 hour creatinine clearance check done.


    CORTISOL

    Cortisol - 597 nmol/L (am 100 - 540) HIGH



    HAEMOTOLOGY

    Haemoglobin - 161 (130-180)
    PCV - 0.53 (0.40-0.54)
    MCV - 6.0 (4.5-6.5)
    MCH - 27 (27-34) LOW
    MCHC - 304 (320-360) LOW
    RDW - 19 (11-15) HIGH
    Platelets - 341 (150-400)
    White cells - 11.0 (4.0-11.0)
    Neutrophils - 6.5 (2-7.50)
    Lymphocytes - 3.4 (1.0-4.00)
    Monocytes - 0.8 (0.2-1.0)
    Eosinophils - 0.2 (0.0-0.7)
    Basophils - 0.1 (0.0-0.2)
    ESR - 2mm/hr (0-20)


    CREATIVE PROTEIN

    C-Reactive Prot - <5 ml/L (<7)


    BIOCHEMISTRY

    Sodium - 139 (137-145)
    Potassium - 5.0 (3.6-5.4)
    Chloride - 104 (98-111)
    Bicarbonate - 25 (22-31)
    Urea - 8.3 mmol/L (3.2-7.4) HIGH
    Creatinine - 99 umol/L (60-110)
    eGFR - 83 ml/min (>89) LOW
    Bilirubin - 9 (<21)
    ALP - 51 (50-130)
    GGT - 13 (<64)
    ALT - 88 (<45) HIGH
    AST - 48 (<34) HIGH
    Protein - 71 (63-82)
    Albumin - 47 (35-50)
    Globulin - 24 (22-39)

    IRON STUDIES


    Iron - 13 (10-30) LOW
    Transferrin - 4.3 (1.8-3.6) HIGH

    Tr Sat - 12 (12-45) LOW
    Ferritin - 70 (20-300)

    ENDOCRINOLOGY

    ACTH Level - 39.7 pmol/L (0.0-12.0) HIGH
    Growth Hormone 2.2 mU/L (0.0-15.0) DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS LOW FOR HIS AGE?

    SERUM INSULIN

    Insulin - 7 mU/L (No range)

    Glucose - 4.0 mmol/L (3.4-5.4)


    CREATININE CLEARANCE

    Urine Volume - 4.5 L/24hr
    Serum/Plasma Creatinine - 99 umol/L (60-110)
    Urine Creatinine - 6.1 mmol/L
    Urine Creatinine - 27 mmol/Day (>6.0)

    Creatinine Clearance - 191ml/min (85-125) HIGH


    Urinary Protein

    Urine Protein - 0.09 g/L
    Urine Protein - 0.41 g/24 hours (<0.15) HIGH



    So those are his levels.... since receiving his bloods he has dropped the Winstrol and Tren A.

    He has also reduced his Test E to 250mg.

    What other recommendations can you guys make?

    He has started Humanofort, 3g Vitamin C and Phosphatidyl Serine 100mg x 3 daily to reduce Cortisol and ACTH levels.

    I dont know what to recommend for him about the others however?

    What do you guys think?
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    bump

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    looks like hes got some form of anemia maybe macrocystic microchromic, he needs to up his iron, b12, folate.

    the high urea is from excess protein, though im little worried as excess urine protein and low GFR rate is an indication of early onset of leaky kidney disease.

    the high cortisol/liver enzymes could be normal, as it was a morning test + high amounts of weight training, though i would seek further tests, tell your friend to follow this up.

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    yeh i said same thing about cortisol and liver...

    main problem was the iron/urea

    although interestingly enough his urea was at 15 mmol/L last month... yet this month its down to 8.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by beingthebest View Post
    yeh i said same thing about cortisol and liver...

    main problem was the iron/urea

    although interestingly enough his urea was at 15 mmol/L last month... yet this month its down to 8.3
    urea doesnt suprise me, all our high protein diets cause it. your mate is fine though.

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    dont u love it that blood tests are free in aus haha

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    thanks medicare lol

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    Like Stevey mentioned, add some iron, B12 and other supplements to get your iron up, and eat your spinach!

    The enzymes (ALT/AST) are probably elevated from the Winstrol , presuming it was the oral version that "your friend" took. Tell him to look at some UDCA to help with liver support if he runs a future cycle that is similar. These numbers should drop and gradually improve with that the compounds have been dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    thanks medicare lol
    hmm yes but my doc was nearly gunna say no to my last blood test because it cost the goverment $$ fvckin bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_ron View Post
    hmm yes but my doc was nearly gunna say no to my last blood test because it cost the goverment $$ fvckin bitch
    Any public doc? I live in aus and didn't know it's free

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    yep any gp or anything..

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    hey everyone , im new to the thread and forums in general, im talking to others on this site about my new cycle im about to start but i wanted to get blood work done before, which ive heard is a good idea. I have a question about it though.... What kind of test do I tell the doctor i want to get?? I dont know the names of them. But i wanna make sure im good to go for this cycle.. Do you all know what the test id be asking for is called??

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    awesome ! THX

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    lol your welcome.

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