Canada Blood Testing

**ShootingAcez** · 02-16-2019, 08:00 AM

Has anyone from Canada found a lab that does testing, that doesn't cost an outrageous amount? It seems the States have incredibly cheap testing, compared to Canada

**Windex** · 02-16-2019, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

Has anyone from Canada found a lab that does testing, that doesn't cost an outrageous amount? It seems the States have incredibly cheap testing, compared to Canada

Do you mean getting BW done privately so people cannot see results ? Because the public health care system is free for 99% of testing.

**ShootingAcez** · 02-16-2019, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

Do you mean getting BW done privately so people cannot see results ? Because the public health care system is free for 99% of testing.

Unfortunately I would need a referral from a doctor in order for the required tests to be covered, and I don't have a family doctor, because of my job, it's covered privately, not publicly....but I can't exactly go to them and ask for the tests either lol. So a private lab is my only choice.

**Windex** · 02-17-2019, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

Unfortunately I would need a referral from a doctor in order for the required tests to be covered, and I don't have a family doctor, because of my job, it's covered privately, not publicly....but I can't exactly go to them and ask for the tests either lol. So a private lab is my only choice.

What is your job ? Have never heard of a job preventing someone for getting a family doctor.

Do you live in Ontario?

**ShootingAcez** · 02-17-2019, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

What is your job ? Have never heard of a job preventing someone for getting a family doctor.

Do you live in Ontario?

I'm in the Military. yeah, I live in Ontario.

**Windex** · 02-17-2019, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

I'm in the Military. yeah, I live in Ontario.

You could try a walk in clinic .

If they are drug testing PEDs it's going to remove some compounds as being options due to long detection times.

**ShootingAcez** · 02-17-2019, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

You could try a walk in clinic .

If they are drug testing PEDs it's going to remove some compounds as being options due to long detection times.

I'm not worried about being tested, as they don't test for steroids . It's too expensive and they need just cause to do so anyways. We have our own Medical clinic though, and asking for the tests, would give just cause in the future.

**ShootingAcez** · 02-17-2019, 04:02 PM

I'm not sure if a Walk-in Clinic would report it on my medical file, and in turn, find it's way to the military...That's my dilemma.

**Windex** · 02-18-2019, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

I'm not sure if a Walk-in Clinic would report it on my medical file, and in turn, find it's way to the military...That's my dilemma.

Everything is attached to your heatlh card, OHIP is one database, doesn't matter where you go in terms of public options. You will have to just pay the $$$ for private. FYI Deca is detectable in your body for a year, so could always be policy changes down the line, a lot can change in a year - something to think about.

**ShootingAcez** · 02-18-2019, 09:07 AM

Yeah, I may or may not risk the Deca . Not sure yet.
Guess I'll just have to bite the bullet on Private labs! Thanks your all your help!

Last question, If I had to pick specific hormones to be tested, keeping in mind I may be using deca, what selection of hormones would be "Must haves" for bw?

Testosterone , Free
Testosterone, Total
Estradiol, Sensitive
Prolactin
LDL
HDL
RBC
Hematocrit
??

**Windex** · 02-18-2019, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

Yeah, I may or may not risk the Deca . Not sure yet.
Guess I'll just have to bite the bullet on Private labs! Thanks your all your help!

Last question, If I had to pick specific hormones to be tested, keeping in mind I may be using deca, what selection of hormones would be "Must haves" for bw?

Testosterone , Free
Testosterone, Total
Estradiol, Sensitive
Prolactin
LDL
HDL
RBC
Hematocrit
??

I don't think it worth the risk when you can just use NPP instead.

Total testosterone is not important. Lipid Panel should Include HDL, LDL, Cholesterol, and Triglycerides.

**ShootingAcez** · 02-18-2019, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

I don't think it worth the risk when you can just use NPP instead.

Total testosterone is not important. Lipid Panel should Include HDL, LDL, Cholesterol, and Triglycerides.

Aren't they both relatively long same due to their metabolites, even though they're different esters? Deca being 18months and NPP being 12months?

**Windex** · 02-18-2019, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

Aren't they both relatively long same due to their metabolites, even though they're different esters? Deca being 18months and NPP being 12months?

I believe NPP is 6 or 8 months but I could be mistaken. The best option would be to use NNE (Nandrolone No Ester)

**ShootingAcez** · 02-18-2019, 11:32 AM

How often would I have to pin NNE? Is that an ED thing?

**GearHeaded** · 02-18-2019, 11:45 AM

modern day AAS testing is far more advanced then when the idea came out that Deca lasts for 12 months .. in fact modern tests can find metabolites in your body of an oral AAS (like Tbol) that has a half life of only one day , years after taking the drug.
so at this point wither you take Dbol or Deca , they can find out months and months later if they really wanted to.

however , I doubt a work place drug test is going to use any of these measures . I would just run whatever I wanted and not worry about ever being tested (too many other things to worry about in life)

**ShootingAcez** · 02-18-2019, 01:32 PM

I emailed a Private lab with the specifics I want tested...$500 for the things I listed above...UNREAL

**Windex** · 02-18-2019, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

I emailed a Private lab with the specifics I want tested...$500 for the things I listed above...UNREAL

Could be likely cheaper to go with a US service then depending on any fees and the exchange rate.

**ShootingAcez** · 02-19-2019, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

Could be likely cheaper to go with a US service then depending on any fees and the exchange rate.

How would that work? Would that require me to drive to Michigan for the tests??

**Windex** · 02-19-2019, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

How would that work? Would that require me to drive to Michigan for the tests??

You would have to contact one of the american private labs online and go that route. It's an in home kit.

**ShootingAcez** · 02-20-2019, 05:40 AM

I'll check it out and post my findings. Might help someone else in a similar situation!
Thanks Windex!

**ShootingAcez** · 02-21-2019, 05:43 PM

Update: You are unable to take blood tests from American companies, as they will not allow blood to be mailed to them. What they do offer is Saliva testing, but Canada offers that for relatively the same price. Cool tidbit about Saliva testing: you're able to test your Free Testosterone and E2 levels. They are unable to test total levels, but the free levels float around in your saliva, so they are able to receive accurate numbers from a Saliva test. DRASTICALLY cheaper than a blood test for those two hormones if you have to pay out of pocket, like myself.

**Windex** · 02-21-2019, 06:55 PM

Saliva did not use to be as accurate. You may want to double check how far it's come in the last few years and specifically if the Canadian labs are using the most up to date technology. Canadian equipment is painfully behind and dated, price of getting "free" health care. For example, most hospitals excluding big cities (Toronto, Vancouver, etc) still use Tesla 1.5 instead of 3.0 MRI Machines, which are 15 years old.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6217969

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1579286/