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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    franchise is one of the greatest path to startup a business formation but it depends on a whole host of factors such as location and seed capital. In 2008 just an example Subway franchise was rank the best and most profitable venture. Depending on your capital and location again, I will urge u or anyone to consider subway in the fast food industry.
    That's pretty vague.

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    300k up front? How hard is it to get a small business loan like that?

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    want to go into business together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    The fact that u area does not have BK, this may be a good fertile venture. Do have the startup capital?
    Just a note: BK franchise cost anywhere from 125k to 300K.
    What is your basis for this statement? I would think BEFORE stating it may be fertile, you would advise to check demographic requirements to support such a franchise

    Usually if the demographics would be such to support a BK or other top fast food restaurant, there would already be one there by now. The fact that there isn't would make me think that BK doesn't feel that area can support their criteria for a unit

    also where do you come up with the franchise cost as most are a set figure, not a 275K range
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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    If you are so smart then why do you start dumb ass threads?
    we learn thru asking dumb silly question; it was beause of that computers were develop. In every learning environment, there is no such thing as dumb question or dumb answer. We are always learning.

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    now your just shitting on my dream T-Mos! I will do a Tren only cycle to spite you!

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    it started because jbm can't afford his house!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Ninja View Post
    now your just shitting on my dream T-Mos! I will do a Tren only cycle to spite you!
    sorry, I just thought I would help answer the questions since he is having a hard time being specific

    but hey, he has an MBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    What is your basis for this statement? I would think BEFORE stating it may be fertile, you would advise to check demographic requirements to support such a franchise

    Usually if the demographics would be such to support a BK or other top fast food restaurant, there would already be one there by now. The fact that there isn't would make me think that BK doesn't feel that area can support their criteria for a unit
    Good point; but just because BK is absent in one community does not mean one cannot be build there. BK has a good reputation across the nation which can be prove in community that does not have one. It only take business leadership and capital to turn around this untap potential in such communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Ninja View Post
    it started because jbm can't afford his house!
    But I can afford your male escort services...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    Good point; but just because BK is absent in one community does not mean one cannot be build there. BK has a good reputation across the nation which can be prove in community that does not have one. It only take business leadership and capital to turn around this untap potential in such communities.
    I semi agree, BUT again, BK has requirements to opening a franchise using their name

    There is a reason they dont' go in certain areas, no matter how much money you have to come up with, IF you don't meet their requirements, they won't franchise that area

    The only side note to that would be if it is a community in development which then you would find out from the local Chamber of Commerce first

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    I semi agree, BUT again, BK has requirements to opening a franchise using their name

    There is a reason they dont' go in certain areas, no matter how much money you have to come up with, IF you don't meet their requirements, they won't franchise that area
    ^^I thank well I know forsure someone know what they are talking about here...hahaha go get him t.....

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    Hey ninja what happened to your sperm bank franchise company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    I think he is lying.......
    why should i do that? what will I gain from it? and why should I cheat my ownself with lies that wont do me a dime? Anyhow I surpass mba level because I reached a consultancy level. do u want to see our official website to prove it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    why should i do that? what will I gain from it? and why should I cheat my ownself with lies that wont do me a dime? Anyhow I surpass mba level because I reached a consultancy level. do u want to see our official website to prove it?
    sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    I semi agree, BUT again, BK has requirements to opening a franchise using their name

    There is a reason they dont' go in certain areas, no matter how much money you have to come up with, IF you don't meet their requirements, they won't franchise that area

    The only side note to that would be if it is a community in development which then you would find out from the local Chamber of Commerce first
    I don't know where u getting your facts from? But BK in the past years have gone international. They are now present in Japan, China, India, South Africa, Egypt, France,,,,,,,,u name it , there are there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    I don't know where u getting your facts from? But BK in the past years have gone international. They are now present in Japan, China, India, South Africa, Egypt, France,,,,,,,,u name it , there are there.
    that has nothing to do with my point

    we are talking for the most part Domestic US, but even international will have requirements for demographics, experience, capital

    they will however be on a different scale then domestic USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Ninja View Post
    300k up front? How hard is it to get a small business loan like that?
    Now u talking business. To qualify for small business loan, u need to meet certain creteria:

    1. expertise in the fastfood industry, banks wants to make sure u can provide quality and retain customers

    2. u need a goood credit history with a high credit score; no one is taking chance on any1 these days.

    3. u need some kind of collateral incase u default on the loan

    4. u need a reason down payment to indicate how serious u are

    5. u need a solid reference or network of other business friends to signal some confidency

    These 5 must be meet before any approval will occur.

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    I don't know where u getting your facts from? But BK in the past years have gone international. They are now present in Japan, China, India, South Africa, Egypt, France,,,,,,,,u name it , there are there.
    Aren't the international locations mostly if not completely corporate owned and operated rather than actual franchises?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    Aren't the international locations mostly if not completely corporate owned and operated rather than actual franchises?
    no, i know a few personally that are franchised overseas... at least the ones I know of anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    Now u talking business. To qualify for small business loan, u need to meet certain creteria:

    1. expertise in the fastfood industry, banks wants to make sure u can provide quality and retain customers

    2. u need a goood credit history with a high credit score; no one is taking chance on any1 these days.

    3. u need some kind of collateral incase u default on the loan

    4. u need a reason down payment to indicate how serious u are

    5. u need a solid reference or network of other business friends to signal some confidency

    These 5 must be meet before any approval will occur.

    good luck
    hmmm , still pretty basic info here

    IF you were advising me on obtaining a business loan and I met all 5 of those criteria , WHICH institute would you direct me to in this economy that will give me the best rates and willingness to make such a loan for such a high risk venture??

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    why should i do that? what will I gain from it? and why should I cheat my ownself with lies that wont do me a dime? Anyhow I surpass mba level because I reached a consultancy level. do u want to see our official website to prove it?
    MBA's are nothing special. Even if you had a MBA from a top program like Wharton, Sloan or Tuck, it would serve more as a testament of the professional networks that you belong to than of your ability to provide meaningful advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    that has nothing to do with my point

    we are talking for the most part Domestic US, but even international will have requirements for demographics, experience, capital

    they will however be on a different scale then domestic USA
    so what's your point of contention? BK is not appealing in some towns in the US? U must be kidding. The rule of thumb in any business venture is about being being the first in the market and how unique your service or product are.
    So in my opinion if BK or any reputable fastfood franchise is absent in one community, this is a great call for profitable adventure, assuming all the protocols of the franchise are implemented right such as ontime supplies, well trained cooks, excellent customer service, and most important of all stringent cashflow oversight.

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    if i have that kind of money to open a franchise, i would just open my own business where no one is taking % from my earning.
    also where i have to buy everything from their own produce and all their products.

    I looked into opening a subway was not far off signing then everything came out how they excatly work.
    no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    MBA's are nothing special. Even if you had a MBA from a top program like Wharton, Sloan or Tuck, it would serve more as a testament of the professional networks that you belong to than of your ability to provide meaningful advice.
    I somewhat agree , it all depends on individual leadership skills and your luck. Education is just a minor part of all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    so what's your point of contention? BK is not appealing in some towns in the US? U must be kidding. The rule of thumb in any business venture is about being being the first in the market and how unique your service or product are.
    So in my opinion if BK or any reputable fastfood franchise is absent in one community, this is a great call for profitable adventure, assuming all the protocols of the franchise are implemented right such as ontime supplies, well trained cooks, excellent customer service, and most important of all stringent cashflow oversight.
    sorry i have to disagree with you here, and I have over 24 years of franchise restaurant experience......

    So, YES, my point of contention is that BK( or other high profiile franchise restaurants) will NOT go into just ANY area

    The closing of ANY high profile restaurant is BAD BUSINESS for the concept. They WILL NOT risk opening one in an area that the demographics dont' show supporting X amount of annual gross sales, and risk closing a low volume store.

    again, the KEY here is the demographics of the area, including business development, and Tax base for that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    no, i know a few personally that are franchised overseas... at least the ones I know of anyway
    Just checked, you're right. Most foreign BK's are in fact franchises. The ratio is something like 10% corporated owned, and 90% franchises. So BK seems to operate a bit differently than some other fast food restaurants. However, BK franchises in some countries like Australia and Kuwait seem to be largley owned and operated by a single franchiser in the region. It's kind of like an "exclusive regional franchiser" sort of deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar View Post
    if i have that kind of money to open a franchise, i would just open my own business where no one is taking % from my earning.
    also where i have to buy everything from their own produce and all their products.

    I looked into opening a subway was not far off signing then everything came out how they excatly work.
    no thanks.
    some franchises are a good deal, and better then an untried and un proven venture, at least in a banks perspective

    they will be more willing to loan capital to a proven concept then something brand new

    also, depending on the franchise, the support, advertising, brand recognition may be well worth the % that they get in return for doing all the leg work

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar View Post
    if i have that kind of money to open a franchise, i would just open my own business where no one is taking % from my earning.
    also where i have to buy everything from their own produce and all their products.

    I looked into opening a subway was not far off signing then everything came out how they excatly work.
    no thanks.

    U made an excellent point, why bother with franchise if I have over $100K.
    The reason is simple, franchise companies have an established recognized Brand power over someone who just getting in the game. It is being proven again and again that customers would rather buy from a familier tested business company than taking risk in unknown. However, if u can compete with that thru large scale advertisment just to become known and popular, the market can be yours. But then again advertising expense is not a joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    Just checked, you're right. Most foreign BK's are in fact franchises. The ratio is something like 10% corporated owned, and 90% franchises. So BK seems to operate a bit differently than some other fast food restaurants. However, BK franchises in some countries like Australia and Kuwait seem to be largley owned and operated by a single franchiser in the region. It's kind of like an "exclusive regional franchiser" sort of deal.
    I agree with the exclusive regional franchiser

    when going international, franchisers usually want a certain guarantee of number of units developed over a period of time, the requirements for international are usually much for stringent than for domestic

    I know one in Saudi Arabia (not a BK by the way) but one oil sheik has the entire area and will be developing 6 stores over the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    some franchises are a good deal, and better then an untried and un proven venture, at least in a banks perspective

    they will be more willing to loan capital to a proven concept then something brand new

    also, depending on the franchise, the support, advertising, brand recognition may be well worth the % that they get in return for doing all the leg work
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    Agreed.
    WOW ! and i actually have that in writing now.....LOLOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    U made an excellent point, why bother with franchise if I have over $100K.
    The reason is simple, franchise companies have an established recognized Brand power over someone who just getting in the game. It is being proven again and again that customers would rather buy from a familier tested business company than taking risk in unknown. However, if u can compete with that thru large scale advertisment just to become known and popular, the market can be yours. But then again advertising expense is not a joke!
    i agree with all of that.
    but sometimes in life we dont get anything easy so putting in the effort and the hardwork to get the business up and established is a lot of hard work that has to be done if you want to be a success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    sorry i have to disagree with you here, and I have over 24 years of franchise restaurant experience......

    So, YES, my point of contention is that BK( or other high profiile franchise restaurants) will NOT go into just ANY area

    The closing of ANY high profile restaurant is BAD BUSINESS for the concept. They WILL NOT risk opening one in an area that the demographics dont' show supporting X amount of annual gross sales, and risk closing a low volume store.

    again, the KEY here is the demographics of the area, including business development, and Tax base for that area.
    Disgree, but it could be possible because of zoning restrictions aand other city codes excuses. But in general though it is feasible to venture in areas where competition is limited, in our case in community where BK present is absent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    Disgree, but it could be possible because of zoning restrictions aand other city codes excuses. But in general though it is feasible to venture in areas where competition is limited, in our case in community where BK present is absent.
    OK, i am fine with that, lets just agree to disagree on this one as this is the first conversation we have had that didn't end in name calling......

    i need sleep, goodnight

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar View Post
    i agree with all of that.
    but sometimes in life we dont get anything easy so putting in the effort and the hardwork to get the business up and established is a lot of hard work that has to be done if you want to be a success.
    Business is not that all pleasure; some it can be grief as well; that's the name Bernard Madoff ring a bell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J431S View Post
    Business is not that all pleasure; some it can be grief as well; that's the name Bernard Madoff ring a bell?
    actually i never knew who that guy was, dont mind me im from aus.
    but yeah the other day i seen something about him on dr phill hahaha, yeah pretty crazy the scams he pulled off.

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