The End of America???

**Times Roman** · 04-23-2011, 05:52 AM

oh.... i'm not the assshole you think I am....

and I still think you misunderstood my POV, but ancient history now. it doesn't matter

**gbrice75** · 04-23-2011, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Our problem as citizens is that as long as we got a couple of bucks in our pocket for a tank of gas and a six pack of beer, we become complacant and fat. These issues remain in the ethereal world and not in the real world of who pays for what.

Perfectly stated, and alarmingly true.

**crazy_rocks** · 04-23-2011, 09:35 AM

i watched it. pretty long. would be cool if you could skip back instead of watching whole thing all over again.

didnt like how at the end that he wanted you to pay though. that right there made me wonder if it was just for sales.

why the hell does the title of the site change every 2 weeks? ive heard

end of america44
end of america14
end of america1
end of america 89 i think and a few others

**Public Enemy** · 04-23-2011, 01:00 PM

I agree with most of what he is saying but the economic conditions of Yugoslavia did not cause its demise, it was the rise of Nationalism in government...

**Twist** · 04-23-2011, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

ha ha ha! =) it's all good mate! and yeah, i can be an assshole from time to time! Nothing I haven't heard before

my intent is not to hit the panic button, but instead to get people to wake up to what is going on around them. Only when people truly wake up and become discontent, is when we can fix this thing. But for now, we are in a perpetual state of war (extremely over reacting imho) that has been going on since shortly after my 12 year old daughter was born. So for ten years, we've been hypnotized into thinking things are not that bad, "cuz we at WAR!".... let's all grab a friggin flags and start waving that fukker, cuz we americans and we at WAR! And if the gumment wants to spend $1 trillion "Cuz we at WAR!!" then it's all good right?

And here's where you can hand me my head on a platter. Does this really mean we ARE at war, or just police officers at the beck and call of the politicians back home?

So for the ten years, and the trillion dollars we have spent, what have we to show for it? Cuz I'd like to know. It just seems that once we wrap up things at one place, we start looking at another place to send "our police officers" When is this fukken war going to end? Or will it? I'm starting to think not

Yeah bro we need to get out of Iraq and afghanistan etc. But the help we have provided so far in Libya is not a big deal IMO. Obama does not want another war. I am not worried as long as a democrat is in the white house. Even if we invaded Libya it COULD be quick as the goal is easy as hell to accomplish: Throw over Gadaffi and put someone who has US interests in mind into his position (by "election" of course...). Now this isn't to say that it couldn't be screwed up completely. I know that's somewhat along the lines of what they said with invading Iraq but the mission there was very ambiguous deliberately.

As soon as Europe and other nations, including us, burned our bridges with Gaddafi I knew for sure that we were going to get involved (and probably already were).

So to sum things up here:
The dollar is being deliberately depreciated to help with our trade deficit and to help with US exports = GOOD
The dollar depreciating is a double edged sword so they better play the cards right = BAD cuz politicians not economists run the world (or banks but that's another story)
Other currencies are appreciating which = GOOD
Gold and silver are artificially high and in many cases are trading (like other commodities) well above what they are worth = BAD (silver for example is trading 1.22 for every $1 in some cases)
Buying silver and gold will leave you to be taxed about 28% or so on returns and you can get taxed 15% or so but you have to fill out a special tax form (so you pay a 22% premium and a 28% income tax, sweet!)= BAD
Even if you buy silver and gold you won't actually be able to turn in you shares for silver or gold anyway (In one case you probably will but you have to have over 600,000 invested at current market price in the fund) = BAD

I also believe that if shit hits the fan nobody is gonna want a sliver of gold at the grocery store anyway.

**Polynikes** · 04-23-2011, 02:12 PM

Here is a great book for you all to read (if you haven't already) "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" written by John Perkins. He is also author of "The Secret of an American Empire"

**crazy_rocks** · 04-24-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Polynikes

Here is a great book for you all to read (if you haven't already) "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" written by John Perkins. He is also author of "The Secret of an American Empire"

saw hi speaking one time on tv

**clemont51** · 04-24-2011, 12:19 PM

Economic and social reality. Anyone who dreams of bringing back jobs for America is in for a
disappointment. We cannot produce enough jobs for existing population. Compound that with
an annual immigration rate of about 1 million legals a year. Just insanity! And anybody out there
that does not have specific job skills, and I'm not talking about "working construction", is doomed!
It is just that simple. Degrees in soft sciences are worthless unless you can find a slot working the
welfare beat!

**gbrice75** · 04-24-2011, 07:36 PM

We need to stop spending on the prison system. LoL I like what Stern proposed a while back - burn all the child molesters and rapists and use their ashes to fill the pot holes in NYC!

**Hoggage_54** · 04-24-2011, 07:58 PM

**Polynikes** · 04-25-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

saw hi speaking one time on tv

John Perkins does a great job of laying out his first hand experiences as a U.S. Govt contracted international infrastructure consultant dating back to the early 60's. The book really answers alot of questions of how many of our domestic and more so international problems first started.

**Times Roman** · 04-26-2011, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Hoggage_54

god bless america, now show yer tits

and is that a nicotene patch on her arm?

**zaggahamma** · 04-26-2011, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by clemont51

Economic and social reality. Anyone who dreams of bringing back jobs for America is in for a
disappointment. We cannot produce enough jobs for existing population. Compound that with
an annual immigration rate of about 1 million legals a year. Just insanity! And anybody out there
that does not have specific job skills, and I'm not talking about "working construction", is doomed!
It is just that simple. Degrees in soft sciences are worthless unless you can find a slot working the
welfare beat!

i'm surprised this topic hasnt come up and/or been debated yet (if its debatable)

**clemont51** · 04-26-2011, 12:43 PM

Over a billion spent on the this most recent mid-eastern misadventure. Meantime, our southern border
leaks the scouring of south and central America.

**crazy_rocks** · 04-27-2011, 05:07 PM

seriously though. anybody know why on the advertisements the number at the end of end of america changes all the time?

end of america14
...america44
...america1
exc

**MACHINE5150** · 04-27-2011, 06:02 PM

This is the same scare tactic the government uses to get people to give up their rights.. i couldn't listen past 7 minutes of him talking himself up in such a monotone way.. the truth is that America is in a lot of trouble.. but then again so is most the rest of the world.. and any link between the US and the middle east uprising has nothing to do with the dollar and everything to do with the CIA and young people rejecting ancient ideas in these countries.

**MACHINE5150** · 04-27-2011, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by clemont51

Economic and social reality. Anyone who dreams of bringing back jobs for America is in for a
disappointment. We cannot produce enough jobs for existing population. Compound that with
an annual immigration rate of about 1 million legals a year. Just insanity! And anybody out there
that does not have specific job skills, and I'm not talking about "working construction", is doomed!
It is just that simple. Degrees in soft sciences are worthless unless you can find a slot working the
welfare beat!

This is an issue arising across the world.. with the mechanization of most factories and farms.. we just don't need as many people working.. something needs to be done, and i vote population control.

A friend of mine was telling me about a tomato farmer who used to require something like 70-80 workers to pick the tomatoes.. in 10 hour shifts.. he got this machine who picks all 100 acres in a couple days.. requires 3 drivers..

Constantly businesses look for ways to be more efficient.. which means require less labor.. which means require less workers.. less jobs available with more and more people coming into this world will result in a lot of unemployed people.. and unemployed people are the 500% more likely to riot/rebel than someone that is employed.. as they have nothing to lose.

**Flagg** · 04-27-2011, 07:39 PM

Population growth is the single biggest threat to mankind for myriad reasons.

19 billion by 2099.

People are going to be living in squalor as the entire planet is turned into one giant fvcking factory where only the very richest are afforded the simple luxuries we take for granted today.

**crazy_rocks** · 04-27-2011, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

Population growth is the single biggest threat to mankind for myriad reasons.

19 billion by 2099.

People are going to be living in squalor as the entire planet is turned into one giant fvcking factory where only the very richest are afforded the simple luxuries we take for granted today.

we cant allow that. lets start a secret society to gain influence and engineer a nuclear war.