Oslo shooters video manifesto, 12 minutes

**wmaousley** · 07-27-2011, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by First Timer 42

Hehehe....
I see your frustration.
Sucks to be stereotyped.
If you have not lived in Europe, and especially my tiny country of 5 million people (4 million Norwegians, soon 1 million immigrants ,600,000 of Muslim decent), you will not understand.
I´m sure you "allow" your woman to walk in a skimpy bikini on the beach, and a tight pair of shorts and cleavage around town.....like you should, cause it´s not our job to control another human being.
Now, collectively, your Muslim brethren does not share your views. And this poses a real problem, when they arrive at a liberal country like Norway, where women lay topless in city parks, and dressed to kill on their night out.
They have a real problem with female authority which is common in Norwegian society, and will for instance not enter a Taxicab driven by a female, or be addressed to by a female police officer.
This is mostly a problem for 1´st generations immigrants. 2´nd generations, will be influenced by our liberal society, and adapt a lot easier.
But "your" violent reaction to conflict, and derogatory views on women, fed by "your" superiority complex, seems to be deeply engraved in "your" behavioral patterns. It might take several generations for this to change.
Regarding the subject on rape, when asked for an explanation, your brothers have numerous times on public TV stated that, "when Norwegian women dress and act like whores, they will be treated as such". Hence the free for all rape fest that has transpired the last 20 years.

These are just the facts. Sorry if it offends you.
On a personal note, I have had a couple of relationships with Muslim women, and a child with one of them. And through them befriended several Muslim Men. So I´m no racist, but yet have strong Nationalistic views. And facts are facts.....reporting them makes someone sound like a racist sometimes.

Regarding Norwegian police and guns. The Oslo episode will not change anything. And not needed to. Aside from immigrant rapes, drug trafficking, gang violence and social services abuse, we are a very peaceful society. We just need to give our new "countrymen" an education in civilized behavior.

See the problem is, your country is allowing these cavemen type people who have never seen life from countries such as Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, & Yemen immigrate. In the Gulf these people are looked down upon heavily. I personally do not trust or like people from these countries as most are criminals and liars.

But Islam just like Christianity does not teach its followers to be criminals, so please you have to stop with labeling these people by there religion.

Look bro these people that immigrated to your country will never be civilized, hell look where they come from. Find a Saudi, Omani, Bahrani, Qatari, or Kuwaiti National and you see a difference in mentality between your immigrants and real Arabs.

**wmaousley** · 07-27-2011, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

you are very wrong. and guess who runs most of the sex slave business in europe?

Where is your data to back up your claims, also a Muslim will never run a criminal organization. Maybe they were born Muslims but are now considered as Kafers.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-28-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Where is your data to back up your claims, also a Muslim will never run a criminal organization. Maybe they were born Muslims but are now considered as Kafers.

first what makes you say a muslim will never run a criminal organization. having a religious preference does not remove someones freedom of will to do evil things especially if they have the idea in their heads that there God may understand some kind of greater longer term goal out of it. we can see this throughout history all over the world in many religious and political groups.

kafers? do you mean people who have left islam? if so im sure people like that are involved but much of the time the cultural identity and sense of domination are maintained, much not always. to state "oh well their kafers" is like blindly defending or perhaps a way of covering all grounds in case one realizes they are wrong.

heres the backup of the claims even though they are not claims. it is very obvious the muslims and or middle eastern men have a larger ratio in forcing european girls in prostitution than other demographics.

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/...the-sex-trade/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-100-sex.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3071965/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/uk...lim-gangs.html

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/06/13/r...exual-slavery/

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/0...-in-arab-land/

you can learn more on your own. dont ask people for data because something offends you. you have a computer. looking it up, its your leg work.

**Hoggage_54** · 07-28-2011, 05:55 PM

Some of my best friends are Norwegian

**crazy_rocks** · 07-30-2011, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by First Timer 42

Hehehe....
I see your frustration.
Sucks to be stereotyped.
If you have not lived in Europe, and especially my tiny country of 5 million people (4 million Norwegians, soon 1 million immigrants ,600,000 of Muslim decent), you will not understand.
I´m sure you "allow" your woman to walk in a skimpy bikini on the beach, and a tight pair of shorts and cleavage around town.....like you should, cause it´s not our job to control another human being.
Now, collectively, your Muslim brethren does not share your views. And this poses a real problem, when they arrive at a liberal country like Norway, where women lay topless in city parks, and dressed to kill on their night out.
They have a real problem with female authority which is common in Norwegian society, and will for instance not enter a Taxicab driven by a female, or be addressed to by a female police officer.
This is mostly a problem for 1´st generations immigrants. 2´nd generations, will be influenced by our liberal society, and adapt a lot easier.
But "your" violent reaction to conflict, and derogatory views on women, fed by "your" superiority complex, seems to be deeply engraved in "your" behavioral patterns. It might take several generations for this to change.
Regarding the subject on rape, when asked for an explanation, your brothers have numerous times on public TV stated that, "when Norwegian women dress and act like whores, they will be treated as such". Hence the free for all rape fest that has transpired the last 20 years.

These are just the facts. Sorry if it offends you.
On a personal note, I have had a couple of relationships with Muslim women, and a child with one of them. And through them befriended several Muslim Men. So I´m no racist, but yet have strong Nationalistic views. And facts are facts.....reporting them makes someone sound like a racist sometimes.

Regarding Norwegian police and guns. The Oslo episode will not change anything. And not needed to. Aside from immigrant rapes, drug trafficking, gang violence and social services abuse, we are a very peaceful society. We just need to give our new "countrymen" an education in civilized behavior.

right dude but i dont think a majority will change

**crazy_rocks** · 07-30-2011, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

See the problem is, your country is allowing these cavemen type people who have never seen life from countries such as Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, & Yemen immigrate. In the Gulf these people are looked down upon heavily. I personally do not trust or like people from these countries as most are criminals and liars.

but awhile ago you said to me that a muslim will never run a criminal organization but now you say most from middle eastern countries are criminals. so surely they must also run criminal organizations like every other demographic on earth.

Originally Posted by wmaousley

But Islam just like Christianity does not teach its followers to be criminals, so please you have to stop with labeling these people by there religion.

doesnt teach its followers to be criminals. how come it considers women guilty if she is raped rather than the man committing the CRIME?

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Look bro these people that immigrated to your country will never be civilized, hell look where they come from. Find a Saudi, Omani, Bahrani, Qatari, or Kuwaiti National and you see a difference in mentality between your immigrants and real Arabs.

in arab nations you see very decent people and people with the same qualities as the arab immigrants in europe. the immigrants are not so culturally separated as you would like to make it sound in order to defend these real arabs you speak of.

so is this what your gonna do? your gonna list middle eastern nations that have good arabs and list nations that the bad arabs? this is you right now > "hey just because a large number of arab immigrants are criminals and liars it doesnt mean they represent the middle east"

all the nations you specified have the good qualities and bad qualities that exist in the middle east.

**Shol'va** · 07-30-2011, 05:43 PM

Bottom line is if the mofo'ers cannot or will not follow the laws of that country then kick their effin azzes out of that country to never return. And if that country doesn't have the balls to enforce that then guess what? They get what they deserve rightly or wrongly so. Doesn't matter whether they be a Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Middle Eastern Descent or what ever, if they won't do by that country then drop kick their dumb butts. Problem solved. Now that wasn't so hard to do now was it? Next subject.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-30-2011, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

Bottom line is if the mofo'ers cannot or will not follow the laws of that country then kick their effin azzes out of that country to never return. And if that country doesn't have the balls to enforce that then guess what? They get what they deserve rightly or wrongly so.

so basically a nation and or culture only has the right to exist if it defends itself. ive heard this concept before. interesting.

**wmaousley** · 07-30-2011, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

first what makes you say a muslim will never run a criminal organization. having a religious preference does not remove someones freedom of will to do evil things especially if they have the idea in their heads that there God may understand some kind of greater longer term goal out of it. we can see this throughout history all over the world in many religious and political groups.

kafers? do you mean people who have left islam? if so im sure people like that are involved but much of the time the cultural identity and sense of domination are maintained, much not always. to state "oh well their kafers" is like blindly defending or perhaps a way of covering all grounds in case one realizes they are wrong.

heres the backup of the claims even though they are not claims. it is very obvious the muslims and or middle eastern men have a larger ratio in forcing european girls in prostitution than other demographics.

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/...the-sex-trade/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-100-sex.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3071965/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/uk...lim-gangs.html

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/06/13/r...exual-slavery/

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/0...-in-arab-land/

you can learn more on your own. dont ask people for data because something offends you. you have a computer. looking it up, its your leg work.

lmfao, you cant use news reports at references, I need GOVERNMENT statistical data from a Ministry of Interior or Justice...

**wmaousley** · 07-30-2011, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

Bottom line is if the mofo'ers cannot or will not follow the laws of that country then kick their effin azzes out of that country to never return. And if that country doesn't have the balls to enforce that then guess what? They get what they deserve rightly or wrongly so. Doesn't matter whether they be a Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Middle Eastern Descent or what ever, if they won't do by that country then drop kick their dumb butts. Problem solved. Now that wasn't so hard to do now was it? Next subject.

I agree with you........Its incredible how this thread (about a Racist Christian Extremist who killed scores of KIDS) ended up trying to bash Islam or blame Islam for this happening. ')

**wmaousley** · 07-30-2011, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

doesnt teach its followers to be criminals. how come it considers women guilty if she is raped rather than the man committing the CRIME?

Puff puff pass bro, by you making this statement, it further lets me know how uneducated you are about Islam.

**wmaousley** · 07-30-2011, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

in arab nations you see very decent people and people with the same qualities as the arab immigrants in europe. the immigrants are not so culturally separated as you would like to make it sound in order to defend these real arabs you speak of.

so is this what your gonna do? your gonna list middle eastern nations that have good arabs and list nations that the bad arabs? this is you right now > "hey just because a large number of arab immigrants are criminals and liars it doesnt mean they represent the middle east"

all the nations you specified have the good qualities and bad qualities that exist in the middle east.

lmfao again, now your defending Arabs. Bro Paxil, Zoloft is available at your local GP. in your eyes they dont represent the Middle East but must represent Islam right?

Again lay off the dope and pull yourself together.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-31-2011, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

lmfao, you cant use news reports at references, I need GOVERNMENT statistical data from a Ministry of Interior or Justice...

haha. your funny.

why cant i use those as a reference? its info. whats wrong, you cant debunk it? you dont need anything but to wake up to the cold hard truth. you dont need a piece of paper from some govt office. you asked to give data and i did and now you look like a jackass.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-31-2011, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Puff puff pass bro, by you making this statement, it further lets me know how uneducated you are about Islam.

because were all suppose to be educated on it right? why im sure thats what you really want.

by you saying that it tells me how much you dont know about your own religion.

HA HA I LOVE THIS.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-31-2011, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

lmfao again, now your defending Arabs. Bro Paxil, Zoloft is available at your local GP. in your eyes they dont represent the Middle East but must represent Islam right?

Again lay off the dope and pull yourself together.

i wasnt defending anyone. do you have a reading comprehension problem?

representing islam or middle east? hhhmm. what to choose. that really had othing to do with my point. but you. you want to nit pick certain countries to decide whos a scum bag and whos not so as to explain why many people dont like immigrants. your just dieing to convince people that they do not represent the islamic world. now i know most muslims are ordinary people but come on man. they act as if they are home refusing to assimilate.

your turn.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-31-2011, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

I agree with you........Its incredible how this thread (about a Racist Christian Extremist who killed scores of KIDS) ended up trying to bash Islam or blame Islam for this happening. ')

pisses you off doesnt it?

**lovbyts** · 07-31-2011, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I'm for multicultureism (to an extent), but when a group of Muslims want their own law (Sharia Law) in the country I live and was born in, no chance.

Respect the laws the country is built on and is currently goverened to, or f*ck off to somewhere more comfortable and suited to your culture. Dont come here, have 15 kids, never do a days work, rant race and hatred, then spounge off the economy until your days are up.

The UK is bent over barrell and is only getting worse.

I have a few friends I chat with off and on over the last several years from the UK, they tell me the same thing and also see it first hand. A couple of them have packed up and moved out of the country to Thailand and Philippines. They say the government is just being taken over and all the laws changing to fit the new regime.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-31-2011, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I have a few friends I chat with off and on over the last several years from the UK, they tell me the same thing and also see it first hand. A couple of them have packed up and moved out of the country to Thailand and Philippines. They say the government is just being taken over and all the laws changing to fit the new regime.

instead of running they need to stay and make a stand

**lovbyts** · 07-31-2011, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

instead of running they need to stay and make a stand

They did for many years. They are older and retired so they are tired of the fight and want to enjoy part of life. Money goes a LOT farther their also. I already have a nice little 10 ace island in the Philippines for my retirement and a house in another location about 10 minutes from the city. I'm sure before I go I will have a few other hectors of land to play with. Sometimes and some part of life you just have to let the next generation take up the fight and enjoy what you can.

**crazy_rocks** · 07-31-2011, 09:04 AM

sounds nice. a lot of little island realms to explore over there.

**Shol'va** · 07-31-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

so basically a nation and or culture only has the right to exist if it defends itself. ive heard this concept before. interesting.

Your words not mine. But if a nation does not defend itself, it will no longer be a nation as another nation overtakes it. Unfortunately it is a cruel world and if we don't defend ourselves and no one else does either , we will no longer exist. Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

**Flier** · 07-31-2011, 02:44 PM

What happened to the "What defines a racist" thread?
Did someone take it too far?....hehe

**wmaousley** · 08-01-2011, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

pisses you off doesnt it?

Not even a little bit.

**wmaousley** · 08-01-2011, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

because were all suppose to be educated on it right? why im sure thats what you really want.

by you saying that it tells me how much you dont know about your own religion.

HA HA I LOVE THIS.

Rape is a crime against the person(s) commiting the Rape, not the person being raped in Islam, you need to do your home work.

**wmaousley** · 08-01-2011, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by First Timer 42

What happened to the "What defines a racist" thread?
Did someone take it too far?....hehe

People who think they know about others and speak on what they think they know, and refuse to believe anything different than there own belief about a person, group, culture. example Crazy Rocks

**crazy_rocks** · 08-01-2011, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Rape is a crime against the person(s) commiting the Rape, not the person being raped in Islam, you need to do your home work.

actually you need to do yours

**crazy_rocks** · 08-01-2011, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Not even a little bit.

oh yes it does

**crazy_rocks** · 08-01-2011, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

People who think they know about others and speak on what they think they know, and refuse to believe anything different than there own belief about a person, group, culture. example Crazy Rocks

its not about what I think I know. Its about what I know and so far there is info you have not been able to refute. And why did you say this in response to the guy asking what happened to the what defines a racist thread? Your the one who made a comment about not trusting Arabs saying most are criminals and liars. Of course even on that you have flip flopped. I think you say whatever you have to for the moment because you refuse to see the cult like hate that has spawned from a religion. Since you have failed to This your not sure how to make sense of it and you keep blindly defending it.

Are you tired? I'm not. I can do this for 10 more pages

**wmaousley** · 08-02-2011, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_rocks

its not about what I think I know. Its about what I know and so far there is info you have not been able to refute. And why did you say this in response to the guy asking what happened to the what defines a racist thread? Your the one who made a comment about not trusting Arabs saying most are criminals and liars. Of course even on that you have flip flopped. I think you say whatever you have to for the moment because you refuse to see the cult like hate that has spawned from a religion. Since you have failed to This your not sure how to make sense of it and you keep blindly defending it.

Are you tired? I'm not. I can do this for 10 more pages

Not gonna do this for even one more post. Bro find a girl/guy whatever you prefer, to occupy your time. Better yet get a partner and 2 hobbies so you can move on with life. Let it go, I know its hard for you but just embrace Islam with a big hug and get over your jealousies.

**crazy_rocks** · 08-02-2011, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Not gonna do this for even one more post. Bro find a girl/guy whatever you prefer, to occupy your time. Better yet get a partner and 2 hobbies so you can move on with life. Let it go, I know its hard for you but just embrace Islam with a big hug and get over your jealousies.

well you have been just as busy at this as me but no thanks i would never embrace rewritten biblical history.