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    I played baseball at the university of missouri during the 2003 season. The drug tests were random and they only tested up to 6 guys at a time. Everyone gets pisses in a cup at the beginning of the season but they dont check everyones piss. Just thought Id give my two cents since Ive been through this. Dont know how football is but Im sure its similiar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
    Hey east coast for real, do they get tested i honestly don't know. it seems like nobody can be that superhuman without a little help.
    i'm not downing any of these guys that work hard but cmon look at before and after pics.
    Yes, players def. get tested. I got tested several times but I didnt juice while I played. I know several players on our team that got tested while on juice and they passed.... I also know people who got asked to take a drug test, and they just quit.

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    I think edward norton was definetly juicin in American History X

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    i agree that most athletes use juice with short half lives and that are undectable like insulin , thg, etc. i mean look at the bodies and the performance of olympic athletes. they got some secret sh*t. the sprinters look like sculptures.

    hey ecoastvip, you never answered me. do the strongmen get tested. i'm serious cuz i've never heard anything on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
    i agree that most athletes use juice with short half lives and that are undectable like insulin , thg, etc. i mean look at the bodies and the performance of olympic athletes. they got some secret sh*t. the sprinters look like sculptures.

    hey ecoastvip, you never answered me. do the strongmen get tested. i'm serious cuz i've never heard anything on it

    Not to answer ECoastVip's question... But I doubt the strong men get tested. Its probably like professional body builders... its accepted. I would be could, but my guess would be no.

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    Michael Clark Duncan Is Like 6'5" And At One Time Like 330 Lbs. He Is Def. 1 Big Mf.

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    Strongmen do not get tested. BB'ers do not get tested. This is pretty stupid, people talking abuot brad pitt and edward norton juicing, these guys have nothing else to do but workout and they have people making them meals. And its not even like they are huge, they are less than my size, just cut. You can say i think they are on gear but you can always tell if someone who is over 220 and all muscle is on gear. The truth of the matter is that your body can't hold weight over your naturally limit for long without steroids .

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    It is safe to say that michael clark duncan was on some kind of gear. Another thing, these athletes can be on hgh or igf and be superhuman because todays science can't test for those compounds yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
    hey ecoastvip, you never answered me. do the strongmen get tested. i'm serious cuz i've never heard anything on it
    The testing in strong man comp's is like the testing in Body Building comp's. It's there, but just to look like they care. The guys are easily getting around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    Strongmen do not get tested. BB'ers do not get tested. This is pretty stupid, people talking abuot brad pitt and edward norton juicing, these guys have nothing else to do but workout and they have people making them meals. And its not even like they are huge, they are less than my size, just cut. You can say i think they are on gear but you can always tell if someone who is over 220 and all muscle is on gear. The truth of the matter is that your body can't hold weight over your naturally limit for long without steroids.
    Yeah, Edward Norton looked good but keep in mind camera angles alone can make someone look more imposing. Brad Pitt, maybe but considering the guys dedication to roles I wouldn't doubt he did it naturally.

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    agreed nsa but...there are three different body types and not everyone is capable of being over 220 lbs. you have to look at the time frame where they put on that much muscle and kept lean. i mean bro you look like you've got a big frame and you're cut but not all people have those genetics. some people just don't fit that criteria of 220 lbs. when i graduated high school i was 135 lbs. now i'm about 180 and i'm 24yo. for me to get to 220 is pretty much impossible.

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    Thats what i set that bar so high, to be sure that they are using. My frame isn't all that big, I think my genes are decent though nothing crazy good.

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    How much do you think brad pitt is in either fight club or troy and ed norton in american history x?

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    i have no clue b/c of their height but i know they prob put on 30+ lbs. in a short amount of time and they were shredded. i mean maybe they weren't but just b/c they're frame isn't massive doesn't mean they haven't touched it.

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    I don't think either put on 30+ pounds in a short time.

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    how bout will smith before the movie Ali?

    and i know quite a few college football players who juice, they just use stuff like prop in the off season

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    You all forgot sly from the rocky era. He was training by franco and franco even admitted that he gave him gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    You all forgot sly from the rocky era. He was training by franco and franco even admitted that he gave him gear.
    ha, well i thought it was obvious he was using gear i didnt even mention him

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    The guy from the movie The Program name is Andrew Bryniarski. He has been in a few movies and played leatherface in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. As for the Rock using he has really lost alot of size and toned down his body. If you seen his movie Walking Tall there is a scene where he walks into a room with his shirt off and you can clearly see a divate around his nipple where he has had scare tissue removed. It is quite noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoaster
    Honestly... I noticed that too.
    How about that one actor... I cant remember his name, I think he's the Governor of California?
    He's not just "the governor", he's "THE CELEBRITY GOVERNOR"

    I'LL BE BACK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottobig
    The guy from the movie The Program name is Andrew Bryniarski. He has been in a few movies and played leatherface in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. As for the Rock using he has really lost alot of size and toned down his body. If you seen his movie Walking Tall there is a scene where he walks into a room with his shirt off and you can clearly see a divate around his nipple where he has had scare tissue removed. It is quite noticeable.
    The Rock had gyno surgery about a year and a half after he started wrestling. He claimed it was just natural gyno of course. Happens to us all.

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    As for the Rock using he has really lost alot of size and toned down his body. If you seen his movie Walking Tall there is a scene where he walks into a room with his shirt off and you can clearly see a divate around his nipple where he has had scare tissue removed. It is quite noticeab
    After surgery he wore a workout shirt and workout pants in his matches for about 2 months. If anyone remembers the Rock wearing this stuff around the start of his career that is why. It was noticable before surgery that he had a small gyno problem. His Dad juiced like freakin' crazy. No doubt about his Dad's use if you've ever seen him in the 80's. He was compareable to most bodybuilders at the time.

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    dude i just went to carrott tops website that mofo is pretty jacked unbeleivable

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    Yeah, I watched wrestling back then and Rock juiced, he had the gyno surgery and that was the reason he wore those "$500 shirts". He also seems to have stopped as he's lot a lot of weight...

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    Edward Norton in American History X.

    He was looking very swole in that film.

    Edit...did not see the other post about Norton.
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    The russian in Rocky 4 juiced...

    I know because there was a scene in the movie where they showed it

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    oh yeah, will smith jacked way up. i'll have to vote yes on him. he could be natural but i don't think so. you all talk about lou and arnold but i think franco columbo was killer for his size. he was in such good shape

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    what about vin diesel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    ben wallace and TO def get tested. And the rock might not have been testing every season but im sure he got tested at least a few times and as anyone who plays NCAA ball of any sort knows, you don't risk your eligibility for gear. And come on, you know they test miami.

    I personally believe almost all athletes use. Think about it...if your competing against someone you know that is on and there are ways around it..........Testing for steroids is like my gf telling me the pregnancy test says yes and me taking her word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    michael clarke duncan... He's well over 250 and its impossible to hold that kind of muscle weight naturally.

    The man is huge... Very admirable...Not like one of the little tiny muscular men most people are jackin about. I'll take 250 and some fat over 160-175 and ripped any day of the week..

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    yea brad pitt juiced a lil for both fight club anf troy just look at him he's puffy... take 2 pics... before the troy movie and after the troy movie, ull see. You can do the same with before and after fight club

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    If anyone thinks that you need juice to look like norton in american history X, Brad pitt in troy, or carrot top, you really need to rethink your diet and training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRicKtOutT
    yea brad pitt juiced a lil for both fight club anf troy just look at him he's puffy... take 2 pics... before the troy movie and after the troy movie, ull see. You can do the same with before and after fight club


    Ive said it before ill say it again... If you have to have your shirt off to look big then you need to gain some mass. IMO if he did juice then thats not saying much at all. People are saying how 50 and ll cool j might juice or might not they are both over 200lbs I believe. Brad Pitt just looks small to me. A lot of guys have that small,cut,look. It really doesnt impress me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisAdams
    If anyone thinks that you need juice to look like norton in american history X, Brad pitt in troy, or carrot top, you really need to rethink your diet and training.
    True bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
    oh yeah, will smith jacked way up. i'll have to vote yes on him. he could be natural but i don't think so. you all talk about lou and arnold but i think franco columbo was killer for his size. he was in such good shape
    I am not surprised at anyone who juices, since all us bros here know that if you do it responsibely it is even healthy.

    Let's not forget that steroids are made to be "evil" by media and "word-of-mouth".

    But all things set aside --> I know for sure Will Smith didn't juice!

    Let's think about it, Will Smith is 1m95 or more, that's a lot of potential for mass, second of all he's never played intensity sports and for whoever has gone (kick)boxing for the first time for a year you will notice to have put on serious mass and get crazely ripped.
    Not only that but Will Smith prepared 2 years for this movie --> Anybody saying you can't put on 60-100 pounds NATURALLY in 2 years (remember Will Smith was still skinny when he started) when you have nothing else on your mind (studies, job, finances) with personal trainers, personal nutricionists and chefs and a paycheck of $20,000,000 and even more fame in sight if you reached that goal, then all I have to say is:
    Get out! --> We don't need weaklings on this board!
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    definitely brad pitt for the troy movie....he never used to be that beefy - there were also rumours about his rages on set - roid rage ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    I think vin deisel could be natural, 50 could be natural, they aren't all that impressive, their somewhat big but within the natural endocrine system limitations.

    I agree.

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    The Rock slimmed down to have a more "attractive hollywood" appearence. Hollywood has their standards and they required him to cut down.

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    50 cent isn't that big... neither is vin... The Rock and Micheal clark duncan did or do... sly stallone in rocky 4 vs Dolph Lundgreen both of them came in dialed! Compare rocky 1 and 2, to 3 and 4... Huge huge difference.

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    i think the rock does juice now or has been, i seen him live once and he was a maniac.. then i saw him the very first time he went back to wrestling recently after shooting a movie.. i would guess by looking at him he went off of whatever it is while shooting the movie..maybe when you leave wwe vince cuts u off the supply lol

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