Let's beef up!! Cycle input needed

[johndope]

OK guys
it has been a while now but im gonna start a new cycle. Of course i'd like to have input by my a.r. brothers.

1st some stats:
age:22 years
weight:250,8 lbs (114 kg)
height: 6'3" 191 cm
arms: 19,6 inches49 cm
max bench: 407lbs (probably now 363)

pics were taken about 3 months ago.



i was thinking about the next cycle:
wk 1 to 4 30 mg dbol ed
wk 5 to 8 winny mo we vr
wk 1 to 8 deca 400 mg

of course nolvadex and clomid therapy

i am not a big test fan so i was trying to avoid it bc it makes me look bloated and i am gyno prone. But if u guys think it is worth it let me know!

I am looking for about 18 lbs to gain. preferably dry mass.
weak spots: legs!! so i need to beef them up though

any, i mean any (even flames :P) are welcome

[kronik]

The cycle you are suggesting will shut you down hard...You do need the test...You can add l-dex also to help with the bloat...

[johndope]

The cycle you are suggesting will shut you down hard...You do need the test...

ok plz tell me why, and what test do u suggest, something like test cyp. or should i through in some sustanon

[dannyisaacs]

dude you really big shut.just think your legs need a littel work. but dam you big. how many centermeters are your arms.

[Spoon]

yes, your prposed cycle will shut you down, its not for all. what i would do is to suggest test enth/eq stack. and you can have some ldex/proviron to help you with the bloat.

[johndope]

dude you really big shut.just think your legs need a littel work. but dam you big. how many centermeters are your arms.

49 cm that is about 19,6 inches thx for the compliment m8

[kronik]

All 3 compounds will shut down your hpta(natural test production) the test is suggested to keep Mr. Winky happy... Also you will need to run test higher than any other compound. I also think you have to many compounds for a second cycle..IMO

[johndope]

yes, your prposed cycle will shut you down, its not for all. what i would do is to suggest test enth/eq stack. and you can have some ldex/proviron to help you with the bloat.

what would that stack look like for about 8 to 10 weeks?

[kronik]

what would that stack look like for about 8 to 10 weeks?

Run 10-12 for best results...

[johndope]

All 3 compounds will shut down your hpta(natural test production) the test is suggested to keep Mr. Winky happy... Also you will need to run test higher than any other compound. I also think you have to many compounds for a second cycle..IMO

it isnt my 2nd cycle m8

it will be my 5th, but we all would like to keep mr winky happy dont we :P

[kronik]

it isnt my 2nd cycle m8

it will be my 5th, but we all would like to keep mr winky happy dont we :P

Thought it was you second...

[johndope]

i have to say that i've been here about 3 years and i noticed that the way ppl cycle has changed a lot!

but keep the discussion going!

[johndope]

Thought it was you second...

do i look that terrible

[TheMudMan]

You need to add test the deca will shut you down hard and the test will keep everything going.

Winny needs to be ran ED..... it has a very short half-life.

Deca should be ran no less then 10 weeks....... it's a long acting ester so it will take time to build blood levels before kicking in.

You're worried about bloat from test so you can run Prop but it will need to be injected ED......... but you should run anti-e's durring your cycle and that should help with the bloat....... also deca is known to bloat a lopt of users as well and the D-bol definatly will. You can keep the Winny in the cycle but unless your bf is pretty low you will not see big results from it but it will help a little.

Here's a example cycle

1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 - 12 Enan 500mg/wk
1 - 10 Deca 400mg/wk
9 - 14 Winny 50mg ED
1 - 14 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 14 L-dex .25ED
1 - 14 Vit B6 200mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last winny dose/injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
Day 31 -37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6

[Spoon]

what would that stack look like for about 8 to 10 weeks?

test enth week 1-12 @500mg/wk
eq week 1-11 @400mg/wk
proviron week 1-12 @20mg/day

test should be run a mimimum of 10 weeks, but you should be plenty happy with 12 weeks. proviron will help you with the bloat as well. good luck

[kronik]

You suggested cycle:

wk 1 to 4 30 mg dbol ed
wk 5 to 8 winny mo we vr
wk 1 to 8 deca 400 mg

Consider running it like this:
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test E 250mg E4D
Weeks 1-11 Deca 200mg E4D
Weeks 11-14 winny 50mg ED
You will need vit b-6 also for prolactin levels
PCT 1 day after last winny.

[johndope]

You need to add test the deca will shut you down hard and the test will keep everything going.

Winny needs to be ran ED..... it has a very short half-life.

Deca should be ran no less then 10 weeks....... it's a long acting ester so it will take time to build blood levels before kicking in.

You're worried about bloat from test so you can run Prop but it will need to be injected ED......... but you should run anti-e's durring your cycle and that should help with the bloat....... also deca is known to bloat a lopt of users as well and the D-bol definatly will. You can keep the Winny in the cycle but unless your bf is pretty low you will not see big results from it but it will help a little.

Here's a example cycle

1 - 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 - 12 Enan 500mg/wk
1 - 10 Deca 400mg/wk
9 - 14 Winny 50mg ED
1 - 14 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 14 L-dex .25ED
1 - 14 Vit B6 200mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last winny dose/injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
Day 31 -37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6

kick ass post!!
it looks pretty good gonna add the test.. this is probably the best cycle for me

but it looks like i am gonna need a fortune to buy this

[Spoon]

kick ass post!!
it looks pretty good gonna add the test.. this is probably the best cycle for me

but it looks like i am gonna need a fortune to buy this

i agree bro, listen to mudman he knows his stuff! if i were you i would save up for this, you wont have any regrets

[johndope]

i agree bro, listen to mudman he knows his stuff! if i were you i would save up for this, you wont have any regrets

can't wait tbh, contacting my supplier atm

[daos]

You suggested cycle:

wk 1 to 4 30 mg dbol ed
wk 5 to 8 winny mo we vr
wk 1 to 8 deca 400 mg

Consider running it like this:
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Test E 250mg E4D
Weeks 1-11 Deca 200mg E4D
Weeks 11-14 winny 50mg ED
You will need vit b-6 also for prolactin levels
PCT 1 day after last winny.

that sounds like a good plan to me. keep it as simple as possible.

[dannyisaacs]

shut mine are only 42 i still have a long way.keep up the good work

[johndope]

shut mine are only 42 i still have a long way.keep up the good work

looking for the 50 barrier this cycle and i definitely need to beef up the legs

[cpt steele]

hit the legs bro and the weight will come I have the other problem I am 6'2''-3'' and I am all leg. I have 30'' quads and hardly work them to and my chest is 48 and doesnt want to grow. good luck

[johndope]

same with my lifting m8, he is all leg and no chest, but he has a soccer background and used to be a bit chubby..

[cpt steele]

I never played any sports but I used to be a carpenter on commercial buildings lots lifting hmm not sure, but it sucks

[johndope]

guys plz refer to this topic

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...67#post1134567

have to check out some sources