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    Sustanon 250 HELP!

    I am about to begin my first 6 week cycle of Sutanon 250mg, 1 injection a week.

    I have been advised by my doctor to take this alone with nothing else ie no anti estrogens or any other steroid stacking.

    I need help on the following issues:

    1. What is the best place to inject? i heard the glute is not effective? are there any injection suggestions?

    2. I was told by my doc to get on a high carb diet, but i assumed protein was what i was supposed to concentrate on.

    3. Is it worth my while to keep on protein shakes and the use of creatine during my cycle?

    4. What is the best thing to do to keep my gains after my cycle?

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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    your doctor knows nothing about steroids , sus should be taken every 3 to 4 days, and you definately need a PCT, i would advise you read some books about roids before u stick a needle in your body....dont become another statistic for the media....be safe man

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    sust needs to be injectied EOD for best results. Yes you need an anti e like nolva or liquidex unless you wanna grow boobs! Stop protein shakes??! you have to be kidding... while on you need more protein. PCT with clomid and nolva will help you keep your gains, sounds like you need ALOT of research

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    Quote Originally Posted by charbs
    I am about to begin my first 6 week cycle of Sutanon 250mg, 1 injection a week.

    I have been advised by my doctor to take this alone with nothing else ie no anti estrogens or any other steroid stacking.

    I need help on the following issues:

    1. What is the best place to inject? i heard the glute is not effective? are there any injection suggestions?

    2. I was told by my doc to get on a high carb diet, but i assumed protein was what i was supposed to concentrate on.

    3. Is it worth my while to keep on protein shakes and the use of creatine during my cycle?

    4. What is the best thing to do to keep my gains after my cycle?

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.
    Sorry to break it to you but your doctor gave you horrible advice. So bad I'm not sure were to start.
    1.) Glute not effective? It's the muscle in your body with the most receptors. It's the best spot if you look at it that way. It's just as good as any other spot you could pick if not better. Not sure what he's smoking on this one.
    2.) You need atleast 200-300g's of protein a day in your diet. That's a rough guess as I don't know your weight. This is the one point were your doctor must have put down the pipe though. You need a fair amount of carbs in your diet while on cycle, and really while off you need them in there just not as much depending on goals.
    3.) Protein is protein so I'm not sure why you might think that you wouldn't need protein shakes while on cycle. It's the easiest way to up your protein but shouldn't replace your meals. The creatine is in my opinion not needed if your diet is good, but it wouldn't hurt either. I try to get mine from red meat. Best source out there.
    4.) The anti-e's and PCT your doctor told you not to do. He had the pipe back by the time he thought of this advice.

    Summary, doctors are educated on the use of AS for medicinal purposes, not for body building purposes. Sust would just about start to kick in for you around week 4-5. You would therefore have 1-2 weeks of results before stopping at week 6. Bad idea. Sust needs to be run atleast 12 weeks if it's to be used. 16 weeks would be better. You also need to inject it atleast EOD, if not ED. Once a week is not good at all. Very unstable blood levels. Again, I blame the pipe.
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    Listen to all the advice posted above... and thank god that you posted those questions before injecting because that advice and the research you will need to do before hand (on this site of course) will freakin save ur body big time...

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    the doctor i have seen is a specialist sports doctor. he actually perscribed me the sustanon 250.

    When i asked him about the anti estrogens, he said it is a very rare chance of anything happening, and that in all his experience had had not come accross the problem, therefore i dodnt need any provirion or nolvadex .

    Im just tossing up weather to take the doctors advice or not....

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    I would tell your doctor to F**K off and do your own research from people who have used the S**T. Your doctor is an ass for telling you to use this cycle. Trust the Bro's in here man, they will not guide you in the wrong direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by general31
    I would tell your doctor to F**K off and do your own research from people who have used the S**T. Your doctor is an ass for telling you to use this cycle. Trust the Bro's in here man, they will not guide you in the wrong direction.

    i have to agree 100%,

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    ask your doctor to perscribe you cypionate /enanthate instead, he cant say no and it would be a much wiser decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsallmental
    ask your doctor to perscribe you cypionate/enanthate instead, he cant say no and it would be a much wiser decision.
    Yes, and tell me this doctors name and address so I can get some. Sharing is caring.

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    You need alot more research bro. Get him to prescribe the stuff, get it and hold onto it until you've used and reused the search button on Sust cycles, PCT, and Mass Building Diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsallmental
    ask your doctor to perscribe you cypionate/enanthate instead, he cant say no and it would be a much wiser decision.
    and how do I get MY doc to do that

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    Bro....you need your Nolva and PCT. Better to be safe then sorry. The guys on AR know what there talking about. Listen to them or don't ask for advise. Your doctor obviously knows **** about AAS. Just my $0.02...

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    Quote Originally Posted by charbs
    I am about to begin my first 6 week cycle of Sutanon 250mg, 1 injection a week.

    I have been advised by my doctor to take this alone with nothing else ie no anti estrogens or any other steroid stacking.

    I need help on the following issues:

    1. What is the best place to inject? i heard the glute is not effective? are there any injection suggestions?

    2. I was told by my doc to get on a high carb diet, but i assumed protein was what i was supposed to concentrate on.

    3. Is it worth my while to keep on protein shakes and the use of creatine during my cycle?

    4. What is the best thing to do to keep my gains after my cycle?

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.
    And I would say that your DOC knows JACK about gear bro. Do yourself a favor and research a little BEFORE you hurt yourself. There is ALOT of knowledge here so that will help. And welcome aboard bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charbs
    the doctor i have seen is a specialist sports doctor. he actually perscribed me the sustanon 250.

    When i asked him about the anti estrogens, he said it is a very rare chance of anything happening, and that in all his experience had had not come accross the problem, therefore i dodnt need any provirion or nolvadex .

    Im just tossing up weather to take the doctors advice or not....
    well, at the amount of only once a week, that's probably why he didn't offer the anti-e's... but for most of us, we still do it just to be on the safe side because side effects can sometimes be irreversible.

    250mg of Test per week isn't gonna get you any where. You want to keep it around 400-500mg weekly. Plus six weeks isn't gonna help you much with seeing results. Please do some more reading on this and maybe just stock up the Sust until your next prescription. That way you have enough for a decent cycle.

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    You guys really think he talked to a doc on this one?

    Sorry, I do not believe it.
    Not trying to bash or any shi- like that, but if so this guy is a Q-U-A-C-K
    Why would he say "to take this alone with nothing else ie no anti estrogens or any other steroid stacking."
    Is he doing research on GYNO? You would help his research if so.

    What you need to do bro, like myself and the other Noobs is take a good look, a month at the very least, to reseach this site and others.
    Reseach what exactly this "doctors" credentials are.
    Reseach the drugs this "doctor" has given you.

    Then you might have just a little knowledge of what you are taking. Which is very important if you wanna stick pins in your ass.

    If you came on these forums for help, you have come to the right place.

    The Vets and Mods and the Associates have a vast knowledge on what you are wanting to know. I'm sure they will be very happy to help you as they did me.

    Good Luck - and don't go shootin that **** yet bro- research research research

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    Quote Originally Posted by charbs
    I am about to begin my first 6 week cycle of Sutanon 250mg, 1 injection a week.

    I have been advised by my doctor to take this alone with nothing else ie no anti estrogens or any other steroid stacking.

    I need help on the following issues:

    1. What is the best place to inject? i heard the glute is not effective? are there any injection suggestions?

    2. I was told by my doc to get on a high carb diet, but i assumed protein was what i was supposed to concentrate on.

    3. Is it worth my while to keep on protein shakes and the use of creatine during my cycle?

    4. What is the best thing to do to keep my gains after my cycle?

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.
    Glute injection is fine, I've just finished a cycle that included sustanon 250 and did all my injections in my glutes (alternating with each injection which glute obviously), and believe me it was plenty effective!

    Your doc has told you a high carb diet because all docs are very concerned with stress on liver and consuming high amounts of protein does increase the demand on your liver to do it's thing. That's not to say that your doc is wrong, if you want to bulk up then carbs are plenty important!

    Protein shakes are definitely worth doing while on cycle and are a must immediately after your workouts, but don't rely on them for the source of all your protein, food is a much better way to make up your daily protein, the shakes do help a lot though. I did creatine whilst on my cycle and it really messed with my stomach meaning I haven't been able to keep up my food and shake consumption so likely affecting my gains too. Some people think creatine is good on cycle, some people use it post cycle to help keep gains. Do a search for info, and you decide.

    As I said, creatine is one thing people sometimes use to keep gains but there are other things people use too. Check the PCT Forum, you'll find useful info in there.

    Hope this helps!

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    I used the sust once and twice a week, with good results.

    That's all I've got to say.

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    Tell Your Doctor To Stick A Needle Up His Ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badboyyy
    Tell Your Doctor To Stick A Needle Up His Ass
    Thanks for your contribution.

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