Cycle critique

[dogsofwar]

Hey all-
I am about to run a cycle and would like your critique.
My stats:
6'1"
210
34 yrs old
Lifting experience: 20 yrs
Cycle exp: 1

My goals:
I would like lean gains and to cut up.

From all of my research, this is what I have come up with:

wk 1-10 Testosterone Cypionate 500mg (Monday and Thursday)
wk 6-12 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 1-13 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
wk 10-13 Clomid
Day 1 300mg
Day 2 150mg
Day 3 100mg
Day 4-end 50 mg

Lemme know ~dow

[twosocks40]

I would start clomid on week 12. Also, I do my test shots on Sun night and Thurs morning. Equals and even 3.5 days apart.


-B

[fabry]

if he run test cyp till wk 10 he has too wait 2 wks and pct starts on wk 13.
actually there is no need to calculate this way coz he's runnin winny till wk 12. same result, pct starts wk 13.
wk 1-10 Testosterone Cypionate 500mg (Monday and Thursday)
wk 6-12 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 1-12 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
wk 13-14-15 pct with Clomid Day 1 300mg Day 2-11 100mg Day 12-21 50mg and nolva 20mg ed

[Pale Horse]

You might want to think about something to jumpstart your cycle like prop. I think you need to wait a little to start clomid after last winny but I'm not sure, anyone have an answer?

[twosocks40]

Your right fabry. I meant week 13. Brain fart. It wouldn't hurt to run nolva throughout pct.


-B

[Pale Horse]

Looks like my brain was too slow thanks fabry!

[hung-solo]

Hey all-
I am about to run a cycle and would like your critique.
My stats:
6'1"
210
34 yrs old
Lifting experience: 20 yrs
Cycle exp: 1

My goals:
I would like lean gains and to cut up.

From all of my research, this is what I have come up with:

wk 1-10 Testosterone Cypionate 500mg (Monday and Thursday)
wk 6-12 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 1-13 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
wk 10-13 Clomid
Day 1 300mg
Day 2 150mg
Day 3 100mg
Day 4-end 50 mg

Lemme know ~dow

i agree with sox, but why not run prop if you are cutting instead of cyp. i am running prop right now and showing little water.. also run nolva all the way through cycle and pct. 10ed in cycle, 20mg ed pct. good luck

[dogsofwar]

So then, the cycle should look like:
wk 1-5 Testosterone Propionate 500mg (Sunday and Thursday)
wk 6-10 Testosterone Cypionate 500mg (Sunday and Thursday)
wk 6-12 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
wk 12-14 Nolvadex 20mg ed
wk 12-14 Clomid
Day 1 300mg
Day 2 150mg
Day 3 100mg
Day 4-end 50 mg

Is there anything I could sub for Winstrol? I hear Win is bad on the hairline. I already have a recession in that dept. All suggestions are welcome. Thanks a bunch for helping out so far. This is really a "begginning" type of cycle and I want to make sure it's polished.

[fabry]

no
run prop and cyp since the beginnin and then stop prop wk 4
nolva 1-12
clomid, i alreadytold u!

[fabry]

wk 1-4 Test Prop 150 eod --> it is a kickstart!!!!
wk 1-10 Testosterone Cypionate 500mg (Monday and Thursday)
wk 6-12 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 1-12 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
wk 13-14-15 pct with Clomid (Day 1 300mg Day 2-11 100mg Day 12-21 50mg) and nolva 20mg ed

[dieseL atC]

So then, the cycle should look like:
wk 1-5 Testosterone Propionate 500mg (Sunday and Thursday)
wk 6-10 Testosterone Cypionate 500mg (Sunday and Thursday)
wk 6-12 Winstrol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
wk 12-14 Nolvadex 20mg ed
wk 12-14 Clomid
Day 1 300mg
Day 2 150mg
Day 3 100mg
Day 4-end 50 mg

Is there anything I could sub for Winstrol? I hear Win is bad on the hairline. I already have a recession in that dept. All suggestions are welcome. Thanks a bunch for helping out so far. This is really a "begginning" type of cycle and I want to make sure it's polished.

Why not run some Femara too, keep you nice and dry.. Also, Cyp takes 3 weeks to clear so PCT start 3 weeks after you last Cyp injection.. I would run it like this bro..

Prop @ 75mg ED 1-4
Cyp @ 500mg EW 1-10
Winny @ 50mg ED 8-13
Nolva @ 10mg ED 1-13
Femara @ 1.25mg EOD 1-13
Nolva @ 20mg ED 14-16
Clomid @ 100mg ED 14-16


**I love laying out cycles for people so.. I hope this helps.

[fabry]

prop has to be injected ed or eod.
enant 2 x wk
win ed
...
i think u need more research before startin your cycle. i dont think u are ready!

[fabry]

diesel, to be precise, cyp is 18 days.
but people consider it like enanth and start pct after 2 wks...

[dogsofwar]

With all due respect, I have done a large amount of research which is why I am asking for a cycle critique. I would basically like to do one kind of test and one oral with pct. If anyone can offer up suggestions without telling me I'm ready or not, would be most appreciated. I am trying to GET ready.

[fabry]

k!
and i gave u a good advice... that u didnt get! that is why im askin
prop 1-5 and then cyp from wk 6? that made me think bro! pluse, the way u drop clomid...
anyway, wait for other suggestion as mine for sure is not a good one...

[dogsofwar]

Your right, I did not understand based on what was said in the previous statements. I have a couple of other questions. Would it be best to run cyp, prop or eth if used as a single test (vs using prop and cyp)? Secondly, what would be an alternative in regards to an oral other than dbol or winny? What works with this kind of cycle? Thanks.

[fabry]

depend if u are ready to inject ed or eod. and what are your goals? and cycle experience,,,

[dogsofwar]

Goals and cycle are in the very beginning of the thread. I would like to inject eod or the Sunday / Thursday method as mentioned. Thanks.

[fabry]

cycle experience 1? is this the first one or the second?
lets say its the second...
1-15 prop 150 eod (better 75ed)
1-12 eq 400wk (200+200)
no need to kickstart!
also, u can add winny the last 6 wks of your cycle (10-15).
u can run cyp or enant instead of prop but till wk 13.
diet is the key of your lean gains anyway...