Olympics and steroids

**m16a2** · 08-23-2004, 12:50 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

There are so many incidents with people getting caught with AAS in their system. What bothers me about this article is

Another female shot putter, Uzbekistan's Olga Shchukina, tested positive in a pre-event screening for the steroid clenbuterol. She finished 19th and last in her qualifying group and was expelled from the games Friday.

Last time I checked, clen was not a steroid , although it might have a very small simliarity in limited ways.

**nobbythedonkey** · 08-23-2004, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by m16a2

http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

There are so many incidents with people getting caught with AAS in their system. What bothers me about this article is

Last time I checked, clen was not a steroid, although it might have a very small simliarity in limited ways.

i know for a fact this olympics is the first olympics they are going to be testing for HGH

**weightshead** · 08-23-2004, 01:25 PM

firstly, its the same for everything you specialise in - you notice how much the media dumbs things down...

secondly to succeed at most events at the olympics you have to use performance enhancing drugs, whether its anabolics, hGH, insulin , EPO etc, etc...

theres no point claiming anyone is natural there, best they can do is make sure the winner has their hormones in the correct levels and ratios and test negative for any banned substance at the time of winning.

im starting to think that they may as well stop testing and stop trying to make the public believe its drug free.

**nobbythedonkey** · 08-23-2004, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by weightshead

im starting to think that they may as well stop testing and stop trying to make the public believe its drug free.

that would be an interesting comp to see if they was allow to juice.

to quote the comedian Lee Evens.

"the tripple jump would be "

"hop... skip... & where the **** has he gone"

**weightshead** · 08-23-2004, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by nobbythedonkey

that would be an interesting comp to see if they was allow to juice.

the point is they do already, and i hear quite heavily at the start of the offseason.
i know of one athlete who was using test susp and anavar 4 weeks before a tested national meet.

successfully competed and past the doping test.

**steropower** · 08-23-2004, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by nobbythedonkey

that would be an interesting comp to see if they was allow to juice.

to quote the comedian Lee Evens.

"the tripple jump would be "

"hop... skip... & where the **** has he gone"

i would like this too

**Pump101** · 08-23-2004, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by nobbythedonkey

i know for a fact this olympics is the first olympics they are going to be testing for HGH

the HGH test as of now i believe can only detect a few days before test - which is pretty much a joke.

**enid_sprinter** · 08-23-2004, 03:21 PM

yes, the hgh test is a joke.
you cannot balance your t:e ratio out anymore tho because they test if your epitest. ratio has been raised.

**ImmmtheIceman** · 08-23-2004, 11:08 PM

Its BS. i was watching a lot of the olympics the past few days and could count a handful of those that were obvoiusly on AS, and im not even talking about the weighlifters.

**raoul3** · 08-24-2004, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by m16a2

http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

There are so many incidents with people getting caught with AAS in their system. What bothers me about this article is

Last time I checked, clen was not a steroid, although it might have a very small simliarity in limited ways.

So many incidents? Do you think less than 15 positives out of 1500 tests done is a lot?? It's less than 1% that's not anywhere near reality...

**m16a2** · 08-24-2004, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by raoul3

So many incidents? Do you think less than 15 positives out of 1500 tests done is a lot?? It's less than 1% that's not anywhere near reality...

Calm down smart guy... It is alot to get caught, considering detection windows are a simple google-search away.

And, I doubt steroids would benefit each of the 1500 atheletes out there. Marathon runners, gymnasts, and some others probably would do better naturally. AAS would only help certain atheletes, track and field, weight lifting, etc etc.

So your assertion that 9/1500 is not many is a fallacy. It is certainly alot.

**raoul3** · 08-24-2004, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by m16a2

Calm down smart guy... It is alot to get caught, considering detection windows are a simple google-search away.

And, I doubt steroids would benefit each of the 1500 atheletes out there. Marathon runners, gymnasts, and some others probably would do better naturally. AAS would only help certain atheletes, track and field, weight lifting, etc etc.

So your assertion that 9/1500 is not many is a fallacy. It is certainly alot.

Yeah well you just proved you didn't know ****...
Have you ever been through an IOC standard test? Some of you guys seem to think it's so easy to escape the test because they have read some chart on some website... Well guess what, these are outdated and unaccurate, testing improve each year. If it didn't, huge amounts of money wouldn't be invested in creating Designer Steroids. It's not as easy as you think...

Plus if you don't think gymnasts and marathon runners can benefit from drug use then you just need to do more research.
The marathon is probably the toughest race of all, go on a track and run a 17-18 seconds 100m, not too hard huh... Now do that 420 times without stopping, and you'll tell me if you do it better "naturally"... That's what they do and they just have to take EPO, as well as other things, just like cyclists.
And of course gymnasts take steroids, why would AAS benefits track and field athletes and not them? Strength plays even larger factor in gymnastics than it does in most track events.
Almost all athletes can benefit from drug use, hell even in equestrian, some horses get busted for AAS sometimes. Even in archery or gun shooting, they take betablockers to remain more calm...
So 1% is a lot? No it's nothing, knowing that 75% of all athletes use or have used... But more than that would discredit olympic sports that's the only reason. They need a few black sheeps to be sacrificed.

**raoul3** · 08-24-2004, 04:51 AM

BTW that's 9 positives out of 10'000 athletes... 1'500 was the number of tests that have been done until now. 1/10th of percent... But yeah it's huge

**Animal Cracker** · 08-24-2004, 05:00 AM

Steroids in athletes- no big suprise

**RussianVodka** · 08-24-2004, 09:12 AM

IMHO all athletes are using different kinds of steroids . You can not win without it. People want to see results.

**ImmmtheIceman** · 08-24-2004, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by RussianVodka

IMHO all athletes are using different kinds of steroids. You can not win without it. People want to see results.

With the competition the way it is, its hard not to.

**Soldier of Misfortune** · 08-24-2004, 09:56 AM

Did you ever see the SNL skit "the all drug olympics" where atheletes are not only allowed but encouraged to use performance enhancing drugs? Hilarious. One dude was doing deadlift, trippling the existing world record and pulled his arms off his torso, "Thats gotta put a damper on his training!"