best cutters

[ozmax98]

fina/winny is good to retain muscle while dieting and doing cardio but also to gain more lbm which automatically burns more calories. which helps the ultimate goal.. but DIET has to be it.. i'm more than 70 lbs down and it's all because i watched my diet. i started doing crazy cardio and didn't really watch my diet and didn't even lose close the amount of weight i dropped while watching my diet and hitting the weights hard. watch your diet and train like today is teh last time u r going to lift and if your shirt is not soaked and your heart is not beating then there's something wrong. and for the extra edge put in 45 mins of cardio so DAMN.

clen is garbage IMO. today is my first day of t3 so i can tell you the inputs after 6 weeks start dnp in a few days so after a week i can tell you how taht works........... but always remember DIET.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Ignatius J. Reilly]

Bump for the first hand opinions.

[Billy_Bathgate]

Tren IS a cutting drug. It dont have to be used for that but IT DOES rid fat, diet or not. Trenbolone causes a rise in PGF-2A (fina cough). Not at an extreme or even great amount, but some..and by a classical deffinition, it would be a cutting drug.

Anavar also appears to have a "majic" quality about it in the abdominal region.

[LOGANXXX]

WINNY, OXANDROLONA, FINA...ALLLLLLL TOGHETER, THEN CLEMB+ECA
AND OF COURSE, DIETING!!

[03733+$]

WOW!

I thought this loooked familar!

This is an old thread from a year and a half ago! This one has been around the block a few times. Its still good info though!

[tdzzii72]

bump

[Kid Shred]

Tren for me, whether dieting or not , dries me out and gives me a more crisp appearance.

[bad brains]

Wow thats an old thread, seeing Unity66 on a post brings back good memories, I wish he was still alive, RIP punk rock bro, you're still in my thoughts everyday .......And by the way, they are all great cutters......

[funkdoc911]

i like winni and primo but i am about jump on some eq in a week or so

[man_of_steel]

winny all the way,with fina or hgh as a tied close 2nd...

[Bigboy123]

HOW about anavar ........ VAR IS GOOD

[Biggy20]

t3 is the champ!!!!!

[PumP~N~Swole]

fina,Eq and winny are all good choices but as doesn't cut you it's in your diet although I've seen some amazing results from a guy and fina,he totally got shredded but I'd go with winny if your diet is consistant and lean.

[BDTR]

Best cutter - DNP ... also the most dangerous.

Safer - t3, fina, test prop work great together.

[alex*v.7]

on a purely molecular point of view, Trenbolone is the best cutter. It blows all the AAS away. Once again we're talking about the best AAS for cutting. Not all the drugs, but the best AAS. Since it bind the AR but also the GR and also has a prosglandins activity makes it a quite potent fat burner. Also it's anabolic and androgenic activities are quite strong. I don't see how Winny could do better in those categories.

[Shades of Jay]

you will feel fina the first few days.............

gains in two weeks easily as fina is fast-acting.......just make sure you take the tren ed for best results.

tren acetate has a half-life of ~24hrs.........its best to go A.M. and P.M. with it, but who wants to do that right?

Unity66

I don't know who told you that Tren has a half life of 24hours mate, I think it's 3 days actually -


Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone , methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol )
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours



Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca -durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate ) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day


*Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.


Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days



Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours

[n0_Genetics]

So essentially youre saying one could go cardio 2-3x a day with no muscle wastage at all, all while exceeding 2lbs per week lost in fat weight? All this of course with good diet.
Did I follow you correctly?

thats some profound language

anyway i had and won't ever have the chance to try fina in where i live so i have to live with winny, which does not seem to be a bad thing at all!

i would have to say with a right diet and cardio workout, you won't need aas to cut, however it would work as an enhancement. yea?

[kayshound]

hgh hgh hgh hgh hgh hgh and then some more ...u r right hgh
this is the only hormone that will leave u forever lean and cut only remember u must be on it all the time till results achieved. also incorporate some insulin so u can become a big cutter not a shrimp cutter. if u r not competetive bodybuilder the hgh and insulin alone will make u look lean and big all year long with no need for any cardio what so ever and with the ability to eat almost any thing u desire. ofcourse u will never win no bdybuilding title ...yet u will be able to look big cut and muscular to the general public.

[Breetai]

you are what you eat

what should i eat to become a monster then? i want to look like the hulk

[bad brains]

shades of jay, unity is no longer with us,in case you did not know, but who told you that the half life of tren was that long?.....I also was under the impression the half life was around a day or so.......This is not a flame by the way......

[Shades of Jay]

hi bro,

the half lifes that i quoted were taken from Muscletalk.co.uk

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/articles.asp

go half way down the page and click on "active half life of steroids "

to be honest i very much doubt that they are incorrect, the board owners and moderaters are very knowledgeable, however if you can disprove them i would be interested to hear,

regards.

[BullDogg20]

Diet diet diet is the most important thing however celmbuteral is an awsome Thermogenic that will aid you in your fat loss while helping maintain LBM. So clen would be my pick.

[groverman1]

It's all about the diet whether bulking or cutting.

[Steel_Test]

Sniffing glue and paint thinner are the best cutting agent. Might want to throw in a few pieces of crack also.

[fugi1]

i'm on deca and clen cycle, muscles feel well hard, not sure if deca is helping to burn fat but i feel great so it looks a good stack

[fugi1]

i can't get hold of the ECA stack, only ephedrine on it's own. My mate said just have coffee an and asprin with it there's no difference, is that true?

[BullDogg20]

so go to a Pharmacy and buy caffein pills and pick up some Aspirin, their ya have it, AN ECA STACk

[byu]

I'm curious to know what happened to Unity? Anyone like to talk about it?

[Viking_Power]

Fina all the way!

[monkeyjuice]

i think DIET and Cardio are the main cutters......no need for gear

[Roidfever]

Combining Winnie, Tren and prop has always done most of the cutting job for me.

[Sorken]

Best cutter?

Ask an anorexic.

hehe

[PLJ]

If you were to take Tren , Win-V, and Primo together, how much and for how long?