please critique my Baseball/Cutting cycle

**big swoll** · 09-21-2004, 10:58 AM

whats up everybody, im back from my first season in the minors and i had a really good season if anybody wonders....ok here is my cycle....i really want to use it to gain strength and shed body fat....i've got a really good clean diet and a good workout...any suggestions on cardio are welcome though

Current stats: 5'10" 214 lbs bf 14% (im just guessing)

week 1-12 600mg cyp
week 5-12 30mg var ED
week 12-15 75mg prop ED
start PCT 3 days after prop
liquidex .5mg ed

sometime after this cycle is done i will start my ECA/Clen .....any suggestions on how long i should wait, or should i do that at the same time as my anabolics....thanks for the help guys

**hung-solo** · 09-21-2004, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by big swoll

whats up everybody, im back from my first season in the minors and i had a really good season if anybody wonders....ok here is my cycle....i really want to use it to gain strength and shed body fat....i've got a really good clean diet and a good workout...any suggestions on cardio are welcome though

Current stats: 5'10" 214 lbs bf 14% (im just guessing)

week 1-12 600mg cyp
week 5-12 30mg var ED
week 12-15 75mg prop ED
start PCT 3 days after prop
liquidex .5mg ed

sometime after this cycle is done i will start my ECA/Clen.....any suggestions on how long i should wait, or should i do that at the same time as my anabolics....thanks for the help guys

i like it. you know your ****..the only thing i can really comment on is the cyp while you are cutting, why not use prop.. switch the var with halo, its cheaper and 10x better. you would have strength out the ass bro. no ****! makes var look like tylenol. also the l dex i would run at .25mg so half of what you have there..as far as clen goes i would start probably a week or so after you start pct to help the catabolic effect..peace bro

**hung-solo** · 09-21-2004, 11:04 AM

oh yeah and add nolva to that at 10mg ed until pct then run it at 20mg ed there after

**Clarkk** · 09-21-2004, 11:09 AM

I thought you get tested on a regular basis. Some steroids stay in your system much longer that others and that may affect which ones you use.

**Matto20** · 09-21-2004, 11:21 AM

I disagree 100% with switching the var out for halo!

I think that would be a terrible mistake. I can elaborate later - I have other classes I need to attend to now...

What you have proposed looks good to me, however I think you could get away with running the var for longer if you can afford it. At only 30 mg/day running it for the full 15 weeks isn't out of the question...

Congrats on the successful season!

**hung-solo** · 09-21-2004, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Matto20

I disagree 100% with switching the var out for halo!

I think that would be a terrible mistake. I can elaborate later - I have other classes I need to attend to now...

What you have proposed looks good to me, however I think you could get away with running the var for longer if you can afford it. At only 30 mg/day running it for the full 15 weeks isn't out of the question...

Congrats on the successful season!

wtf?? stick with the var?? fukk no!!! look bro if you want pure strength without the size then halo is the way to go.. imo, var is for women and halo is for men.. just my opinion ..

**big swoll** · 09-21-2004, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by hung-solo

wtf?? stick with the var?? fukk no!!! look bro if you want pure strength without the size then halo is the way to go.. imo, var is for women and halo is for men.. just my opinion ..

haha....well unfortunately for me i already have my var....i will bump the l-dex down to .25 ed and i also have nolva...i'll take that at 10mg ed.....i could take the prop throughout the cycle, but i have alot of cyp left over so i thought i would take that...and i dont put on much water weight when i take long esters like cyp or enathate

hung......i thought about what you said, taking the clen during pct for the catabolic effect which you stated but i just wanted to know what everybody else thought....what do you think about running the var longer

matt...thanks for the help bro

clark.....we dont get tested in the offseason

**hung-solo** · 09-21-2004, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by big swoll

haha....well unfortunately for me i already have my var....i will bump the l-dex down to .25 ed and i also have nolva...i'll take that at 10mg ed.....i could take the prop throughout the cycle, but i have alot of cyp left over so i thought i would take that...and i dont put on much water weight when i take long esters like cyp or enathate

hung......i thought about what you said, taking the clen during pct for the catabolic effect which you stated but i just wanted to know what everybody else thought....what do you think about running the var longer

matt...thanks for the help bro

clark.....we dont get tested in the offseason

if you already have var then run that **** as long as possible. aim for 40-50mgs, seriously its not as strong on your liver as most think.. i played baseball in college and 1 year of minors and i am telling you halo is the best i have ever taken and very keepable..but anyway good luck you have your **** together bro. so i am not worried about ya

**SKiN** · 09-21-2004, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Matto20

I disagree 100% with switching the var out for halo!

I think that would be a terrible mistake. I can elaborate later - I have other classes I need to attend to now...

What you have proposed looks good to me, however I think you could get away with running the var for longer if you can afford it. At only 30 mg/day running it for the full 15 weeks isn't out of the question...

Congrats on the successful season!

I agree I would definitely not switch out the var for the halo. You WANT the increased collegen synthesis associated w/ it, especially since your playing ball. Test reduces your ability to build and repair tendons so havin the var IMO is a must.

**hung-solo** · 09-21-2004, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by SKiN

I agree I would definitely not switch out the var for the halo. You WANT the increased collegen synthesis associated w/ it, especially since your playing ball. Test reduces your ability to build and repair tendons so havin the var IMO is a must.

just to help you out bro, halo isnt bad on the tendons like var.. but i am not saying go flip a jeep over either..

**bignatt** · 09-21-2004, 12:21 PM

Halo is to toxic i think

**hung-solo** · 09-21-2004, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

Halo is to toxic i think

not as toxic as dbol and anadrol .. as long as you take care of yourself drink **** loads of water and take the necassary precautions you would be good to go.. imo var is not worth the money at ALL!! halo is so much better and cheaper too.. by the way it does the same thing but its var on steroids

**bignatt** · 09-21-2004, 12:32 PM

i dont know ive had some bros that have had some really elevated liver values off halo

**SKiN** · 09-21-2004, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by hung-solo

just to help you out bro, halo isnt bad on the tendons like var.. but i am not saying go flip a jeep over either..

Hahaha Var is bad on tendons now? and I never said Halo was hard on them btw.... Im all for Halo, prob gonna throw it in my next cycle... but for him var would be much better.

Btw did you get 300 on bench the other day?