doses of tren ETC

**LILLEN** · 10-04-2004, 07:50 AM

planning my 4th cycle.
it will be something like this:

W 1-4 50 mg d-bol ED
1-14 250 mg sust EOD
1-14 150 mg EQ EOD
15-17 d-bol 30mg ED
17 PCT starts with clomid and Clenbuterol .

Im thinking about adding a low dose of tren ace.
what doses do you recomend to this cycle.
200mg / W ??

Will it be to toxic??

what can I use for my hair when on tren?

What do I do if I start feel GYNO when on tren?? (nolvadex doesn't help?)

I also have bought Pregnyl but I have no experince with it and I know quit little about it. (500iu E5D)

should I run it till my last shot or should i continue when I start clomid

How do you mix it??
got one amp with something white (?) and one with something that looks like water ..
should I open the amps and mix them togheter ( simple as that?) and do i have to have insulin 'tool' for it or how will i know how much 500iu is??

im 25 years old
working out for 10 years with some periods of training becuse of hurting shoulder..
done 3 cycles before.

1 d-bol only 30mg ED 8 weeks
2 Testex and deca (do not remember what doses)
3 Test E 500mg E5D and Deca 400mg / Week + d-bol as kickstart and clomid.

A lot of qustions hope someone can answer them.

thanx.

**LILLEN** · 10-04-2004, 09:20 AM

no??

***the original jason*** · 10-04-2004, 09:47 AM

Im thinking about adding a low dose of tren ace.
what doses do you recomend to this cycle.
200mg / W ??

75mg ed I would suggest

Will it be to toxic??

Yes

what can I use for my hair when on tren?

Topical solutions, azelic acid there are a few have a search, depends if your prone to dhn hairloss

What do I do if I start feel GYNO when on tren?? (nolvadex doesn't help?)

You could run bromocriptine with it, I have forgot the doses as i havent had to use it for ages.

I also have bought Pregnyl but I have no experince with it and I know quit little about it. (500iu E5D)

For a cycle this long you may not need it, unless you are a porn star and you dont want your balls to look so small. However if you do want to run it, dont run it post cycle, run it in the last 2 weeks@500iu ed for 10 days

should I run it till my last shot or should i continue when I start clomid

see above

How do you mix it??
got one amp with something white (?) and one with something that looks like water ..
should I open the amps and mix them togheter ( simple as that?) and do i have to have insulin 'tool' for it or how will i know how much 500iu is??

You will have one powder vial, 1 solution vial probably 1ml of solution and 5000iu in powder form. Therefore if you mix the 1ml with the powder you will have a concentration of 5000iu/ml

so take a slin pin, measure about .10ml or 10ius however its called on the pin and thats ur 500iu for each day, pinch a bit of skin to the left of the belly button and inject just under the skin

hope that helps

peace

**bignatt** · 10-04-2004, 10:11 AM

why are you closing your cycle with dbol ?

**LILLEN** · 10-04-2004, 10:34 AM

Thanx alot man!!!!

Well im no pornstar but... I live life like one

**LILLEN** · 10-04-2004, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by bignatt

why are you closing your cycle with dbol?

i think its good to take something from my last shot until I start pct (clomid)
why not??

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-04-2004, 10:38 AM

I'm running Tren with my cycle now. I started out with 50mg Ed and bumped it as high as 100mg ED. Let me tell you that the sides are not pleasant at a higher dose. I can't even begin to tell you how much of an asshole I turned into along with crazy night sweats, insominia, etc...I would do around 50-75mg ED and see how your body reacts. I've heard guys getting fantastic results doing 75mg EOD. But, for me, The sides aren't worth it higher dose.

**bignatt** · 10-04-2004, 02:46 PM

I just think its odd to close a cycle with dbol are you trying to bulk or what? state your goals im curious

**LILLEN** · 10-05-2004, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by bignatt

I just think its odd to close a cycle with dbol are you trying to bulk or what? state your goals im curious

yeeees Im going to bulk!!

i want to gain as much as possible!!

maybe its odd but i dont see anything wrong in this..?

Or do you have anything to say about it?
you just think its odd?

**bignatt** · 10-05-2004, 11:03 AM

I just thought it was odd it will probly make you hold more water and most people like to harden up towards the end cause the gains are more easily kept

**LILLEN** · 10-05-2004, 11:08 AM

the gains yes but muscels no.

maybe it will put more water on me but that goes away after PCT and tahts why most people think they keep more of what they gained.
they lose a lot of weight and think its muscles but its only water.

one thing i have learned by own experience is that - the more gains the more you keep. you lose almost the same (%) any way and if you gain more you keep more (%)