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10-06-2004, 01:48 PM #1New Member
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Homemade Injectables - Safe & Pain Free?
Homemade Injectables - Safe & Pain Free?
Making Injectables Pathogen/Microbe Free
It has become obvious to me that those of us who prefer injectables,
& cutting edge (newer & superior) substances [such as 1-Test Cyp],
are at a disadvantage. To avoid the often insurmountable expense of
prepared pharmaceuticals, & at the same time to benefit from the
newest and most effective substances available, we can "make our
own" injectables. However, this has brought us face to face with a
couple of very real threats, not only to our health & muscular
development, but to our very lives!
We have been balancing our desire to keep our preparations pathogen
free [free from bacteria/microbes], & both pain free & limited in
neurotoxicity. Typically, we use BA [Benzyl Alcohlol] & BB
[Benzyl Benzoate] to sterilize and preserve our preparations. However,
as most of us know, too much BA/BB causes injections to be extremely
painful, and can traumatize the muscle into which it's injected. Furthermore,
being a neurotoxin, the BA can result in nerve damage or even nerve death;
if not from a single injection, certainly during a cycle consisting of multiple
injections per week for several weeks. [It is my understanding that it is for
these very reasons that Grandeur Labs (previously Mexi-Pharm) reduced
the percentage of BA in their formulations to 1%. (Note: I'd really appreciate
their addy. Email to: "[email protected]" Thanks.)]
That said, if we keep the percentage of BA/BB too low, we risk possible
contamination and infection. Although the BA/BB and oil ["USP grade"] are
effectively free from pathogens, the raw AS or pro-hormone that we buy is
rarely USP grade, most often being bought in bulk, in unsealed & non-sterile
containers. This, and the fact that we are "kitchen chemists," absent a sterile
environment in which to make our preparations, is a considerable and very
justified cause for great concern.
BA/BB at percentages typically used by US based pharmaceutical companies
[the BA on avg. seems to vary from 0.9% to 1.5%, and BB seems to avg.
10%], the use of which have only been approved by the FDA as preservatives,
though still sometimes painful, are easily tolerable if one is not allergic to
BA/BB. However, the higher percentages typically used by "kitchen chemists"
(those who make their own) can not only prove to be VERY painful, but
can also traumatize the muscle into which it's injected. [Something to which
I can personally attest!] Furthermore, being a neurotoxin, higher percentages
of BA can readily cause severe nerve cell damage, and even the nerve death.
There are many of us who "make our own," and some are chemists, pharmacists,
lab. tech's, etc., who may be able to provide us with the benefit of their knowlege
and experience. I am wondering whether UV, which is used in lab's to sterilize,
could be effectively utilized in some manner (by us "kitchen chemists") to sterilize
our preparations, while nominal (pain free & FDA approved) percentages of BA &
BB (ie; BA @ .9% to 1.5%) are utilized strictly as preservatives?
I am also familiar with the use and benefits of ozonation. There are small &
inexpensive ozonators available (the size of air-pumps for fish tanks). Is it
feasable that we could sterilized an air stone & air-tubing with some BA, put it
directly into our preparations, and bubble through some ozone to render them
free of pathogens/microbes, or might the ozone interact with our preparation
thus changing the chemical structure thereof?
I have also discovered electromedical devices that very effectively neutralize
pathogens/microbes. One of the devices electrifies the blood via a 27v to 31v
AC ["square-wave pulse?"], and is a proven means by which to cleanse blood
of pathogens/microbes both in-vitro and in-vivo. Another device, called a
Magnetic Pulse Generator, has been used effectively to cleanse infected lymph
glands by subjecting them to a continuous series of pulses of from 24K gauss to
48K gauss for a few minutes, from two to four times daily. The duration of this
modality is dependant upon the pathogen for which one is being treated. In any
case, I wonder about the possible efficacy of utilizing either or both electrification
and/or said magnetic pulses to render our preparations pathogen/microbe free.
Is anyone is sufficiently knowlegable with respect to using one or more of the
above mentioned means to neutralize pathogens/microbes, and specifically
whether they may be used for possibly rendering our own preparations safe
without the need for BA/BB at percentages above 1.5% & 10% respectively?
In the alternative, has anyone "successfully" been employing any other means by
which to render their preparations pathogen/microbe free, likewise while using
said nominal BA/BB percentages?
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10-06-2004, 02:11 PM #2Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by RippedAndRockHard
awesome infos right here
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10-06-2004, 02:39 PM #3
A while back someone posted a chart showing that 1%BA was effective in killing nearly all bacteria and fungus, I believe. This would be better posted in the anabolic lab forum of this board.
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10-06-2004, 03:22 PM #4New Member
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Did not know that a mere 1% BA could be anti-bacterial. Thanks.
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10-06-2004, 03:42 PM #5Originally Posted by RippedAndRockHard
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