1st cycle FINALLY

[PurdueBuilt]

Okay guys, I am finally ready to do my first cycle ever. I posted a message in July, but at the time I was going to do it, I got sick for like 3 weeks.

Anyway, I've been asking around and i have been told to do this:
8 weeks of deca and sust

However, I want to get ripped, not real bulky, so I heard that winstrol was better for that

Do you guys have any thoughts?

Thanks fellas

[wolfyEVH]

8 weeks?? don't like it

[PlasticFuture112]

first and foremost what are your stats ie- height weght ? from there it can be determined what you are a candidate for...

[PurdueBuilt]

first and foremost what are your stats ie- height weght ? from there it can be determined what you are a candidate for...

I'm 6'2" 24 yo 220 lbs, prolly 13% body fat

[killagorilla187]

this is my first cycle, ive been recomended this by many.
500mg test enath.
400mg eq
10-12 weeks
nova and femera (started to take everday, 20mg nolva,2.5mg femera
clomid and nova for pct.

[PlasticFuture112]

ya im liking killagorillas recommendations, or you can even use test prop instead of the enath. but you have to have a test in their as a base for a cycle. What most ppl do for their first cycle is just use a test alone so they can get used to AAS. thats also a very good method i recommend

[Dimes]

Go with Killa Gorillaz, or get some oral gear and stack it with the test, and test sould be ran 10 weeks or more, good luck.

[JohnnyB]

Bro do the sus only diet will determin if you gain or lose. Diet is the most inportant part of a cycle not so much the drug, they can give you an edge but diet is the main component in a diet. For losing fat also add some cardio.

JohnnyB

[Muscle Mass]

you want to get ripped?
Sustanon and Deca cause a lot of edema especially in the face causing the "full moon" face. If you want to get ripped and still massive you use Winstrol together with deca. Winstrol tabs and deca 200mg (deca will cause some edema, but not more than stacked with sustanon instead of winstrol).
The best AS that don't cause edema are: winstrol, primobolan , parabolan , andriol , these are the so called: "mild ones".

[JohnnyB]

He doesn't need to do 2 drugs on his first cycle, stick with the test, diet and cardio

JohnnyB

[toolman]

you want to get ripped?
Sustanon and Deca cause a lot of edema especially in the face causing the "full moon" face. If you want to get ripped and still massive you use Winstrol together with deca. Winstrol tabs and deca 200mg (deca will cause some edema, but not more than stacked with sustanon instead of winstrol).
The best AS that don't cause edema are: winstrol, primobolan, parabolan, andriol, these are the so called: "mild ones".

Not the wisest advice bro. He should always have test in his cycle. I agree with Johny, run the sust alone. Sust/deca is a bulking cycle and will bloat you.