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    test v.s Sus...what do u boys think?

    i know that they are one in the same things only sus is a blend of test... i have however never takin sus? what do u guys prefer...what are the pro's/ con's and how many time does sus need to be shot a week for u to notice great gains?

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    Would this be your first cycle?

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    Sustanon should be shot ED or EOD. People prefer enanthate as it only has 2 b shot every 4 days or so. IMO they are both good, and if you dont mind havin a jab ED or EOD then there is no reason for you not to use sus. Good luck

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    no this is not my first cycle.. i was just wondering about the chem.. does one work better then the other?? whats better for gains?

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    well..sust 250 as well as test E are long esters meaning they take longer to see gains, only about 3-4 weeks after 1st shot, where test Prop is a short ester and you'll see gains in 2 weeks**but you need to take Prop at ED or EOD!.its all up to you..TEST IS TEST and not one will put more gain on you than another...

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    do research on this topic man! just search "sustanon " and u will get tons or post where u can get your info! but just out of curiosity if this is not your first cycle I hope it is your second and if not you need to learn more before u shoot!

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    thanks

    thanks for the info i am doing reseach now.. one thing?? what is the difference between frontloading and kickstarting?? how much do u need to frontload with test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tren100
    thanks for the info i am doing reseach now.. one thing?? what is the difference between frontloading and kickstarting?? how much do u need to frontload with test?
    same thing...and it depends on what your experience is...

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    alright well i have done fina and prop and nova . clomid and i did the prop at 100 mg ed... so with that inmind what should i used to frontload test e?? and what the difference between frontloading and kickstarting?

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    when someone says frontloading and kickstarting they mean the same thing. The idea is to get a faster acting test to begin your cycle, due to the longer acting ester ie. Test E taking a few weeks to kick in...prop, d-bol. a-bombs are all used for this purpose...

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    is there one thats more preferd over the others... is anadrols only used to kickstarting??? cuz i was planing on using them in a cycle for 4-6 weeks? depending one how much they **** me up haha

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    I hear D-rols kill appitite..........not something you want on cycle trying to add mass.

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    Do research all those questions have been asked and answered a million times already,. good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not2bigyet
    when someone says frontloading and kickstarting they mean the same thing. The idea is to get a faster acting test to begin your cycle, due to the longer acting ester ie. Test E taking a few weeks to kick in...prop, d-bol. a-bombs are all used for this purpose...
    not the same...your definition is right for kickstarting..using prop,dbol ,anadrol ...etc,but frontloading is entirely different,there is a sticky posted by MIKEXXX on frontloading..in a nutshell it is taking your weekly dose,say 1g of test all in your 1st shot and then split your shots up from there if you were gonna run a gram a week.so you get your blood concentration levels up quickly to where it would normally take 4-5 weeks to get.

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    thanks

    thanks man thats what i thought... so u only do that the first week.. and that gets your blood levels to were they are suposed to be??

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    Test vs. Sustanon

    You will get more bang for your buck with Sustanon even though it will cost more than good ole enanthate . You should try it I think you will like it. Try stacking it with Anadrol for even better results.

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    Test/Sus

    Sus is oil based so once a week is all you will have to inject it like any other oil based steroid unless you are using a higher weekly dose (over 500mg/wk) where you would need to inject twice a week.

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    3-4 weeks to see gains isn't set in stone, I know people including myself who have waited 6-7 to really see the gains start to show through...

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