No Clomid???

**Bouncer1982** · 01-01-2005, 06:00 AM

What happens if you don't use clomid? clomid is very rare to get in Australia where I am, will HCG Be enough for a PCT???

**Aboot** · 01-01-2005, 06:47 AM

You use HCG during your cycle, not during PCT. There are plenty of guys who do not use clomid for PCT, but do use alternatives. What do you have access to? Nolvadex ? Armidex?

**Bouncer1982** · 01-01-2005, 06:56 AM

I can get nolvadex but will have to see on Armidex, what other alternatives are there?

**Aboot** · 01-01-2005, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Bouncer1982

I can get nolvadex but will have to see on Armidex, what other alternatives are there?

You can do PCT with only nolvadex . Try and get armidex if possible. You can search around for nolvadex only PCT plans. Different people have different ideas on the amounts you need.

**Bouncer1982** · 01-01-2005, 07:09 AM

Thanks for that

**seanw** · 01-01-2005, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Bouncer1982

What happens if you don't use clomid? clomid is very rare to get in Australia where I am, will HCG Be enough for a PCT???

Mate what part of Oz are you from ? I am originally from Melbourne. You shouldnt have any trouble getting Clomid sent by mail. They generally only stop bottles and Amps.

**MER** · 01-01-2005, 11:24 AM

IMO there is no substitute for clomid. If there is any possible way to get clomid to you then do it. Plus, its so much fun. I call my girl over as much as possible when on clomid.

**Bouncer1982** · 01-02-2005, 12:59 AM

I'm in Queensland, but when you say by mail you mean interstate only don't you

**wolfyEVH** · 01-02-2005, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by MER

IMO there is no substitute for clomid. If there is any possible way to get clomid to you then do it. Plus, its so much fun. I call my girl over as much as possible when on clomid.

lol....give her the old "peter north" treatment?!?!

**seanw** · 01-02-2005, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Bouncer1982

I'm in Queensland, but when you say by mail you mean interstate only don't you

No, I mean international

**Bryan2** · 01-02-2005, 03:36 AM

nolva only should look like this
week 1 60mgs nolva ed
2 40mgs nolva
3-4 20mgs nolva

or 2weeks 40mg then 2 week 20mg but i prefer the first and it might take an aditional week for some

I highly rec. some trib ran at 4grams min or higher for the first 2-3 weeks.

**Bouncer1982** · 01-04-2005, 03:53 AM

Thanks for the imput guys, and seanw I will look into it thanks

**Anhydro78** · 01-04-2005, 05:05 AM

You can also have a female freind go to the doctor to get you some Clomid. I think the docs use it to regulate periods or something like that.

**ozmax98** · 01-04-2005, 08:30 AM

i thought clomid was MUST for pct????. isn't the purpose for clomid to get your natural test levels going again???.. i'm confused.

**Mesomorphyl** · 01-04-2005, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by ozmax98

i thought clomid was MUST for pct????. isn't the purpose for clomid to get your natural test levels going again???.. i'm confused.

good, i think so too, but there are those that do not know as much as you.(but the others can be used also or along side of clomid{my way})

**ozmax98** · 01-04-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

good, i think so too, but there are those that do not know as much as you.(but the others can be used also or along side of clomid{my way})

well people are advising to use nolvadex instead of clomid?? which makes no sense because they cannot be a substitute for each other. they both are used for different purposes.

**GetinBig** · 01-04-2005, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by ozmax98

well people are advising to use nolvadex instead of clomid?? which makes no sense because they cannot be a substitute for each other. they both are used for different purposes.

They are not saying "not to use Clomid" they are just giving him another route incase he can't get clomid for some reason.

I will always take clomid along with other things for PCT..

GB

**BIGPAPAPUMP77** · 01-04-2005, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by seanw

Mate what part of Oz are you from ? I am originally from Melbourne. You shouldnt have any trouble getting Clomid sent by mail. They generally only stop bottles and Amps.

LOL...

**ManzNumero1** · 01-04-2005, 12:35 PM

my load is so white and huge when on the stuff. now that i think about it, bein on clomid is fun

**FRANK WHITE** · 01-04-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by ManzNumero1

my load is so white and huge when on the stuff. now that i think about it, bein on clomid is fun

Very True!

**seanw** · 01-04-2005, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by BIGPAPAPUMP77

LOL...

Your point is ?

**k_dogg** · 01-04-2005, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by ozmax98

well people are advising to use nolvadex instead of clomid?? which makes no sense because they cannot be a substitute for each other. they both are used for different purposes.

nolva does promote sperm production. just not as effectively as clomid. so the nolva takes care of the anti e side of the pct and can also help with the test production. so if you cant get clomid its an alternative