marijuana???

[BajanBastard]

This thread is against broad rules so let it die.

On a side note let face it if weed was anabolic none of us would be here posting we would be all f'ed up.............but it's not so why smoke? JMO.

[jgg1221]

smoking weed in chronic users deffinately decreases test leves and sperm count which in result leads to high estrogen levels i know this because when younger i used to smoke a lot and was told this by a doctor. This has been proven and there are a lot of articles on the net about it with medical facts. Marijuana causes permanent damage to the brain in chronic users unlike most drugs meaning that loss of memory poor concentration and learning disabilities are something that you can stay with for the rest of the life. Increased apetite and "Good night sleep" are all an illusion which fade away when you stop, your apetite will decrease and cases of heavy permamnent paranoia are also recorded. While smoking your sugar levels drop as well so you crave sweet things so "increased apetite" usually leads to eating junk, you dont really sit and eat chicken and rice that Mcdonalds burger will taste much better. And to top it all off marijuana has been linked to lung cancer and stomach ulcers (read this in one of the muscular developments). So stay away from it its an ambition killer and sorry to say leads to a looser life style. EXtasy is the worst possible thing for body building it actually causes protein break down and more and more side effects are showing up. Alchocol decreases test leves in men by 60% while drinking and they stay low even in the morning while you hang over.. many alchocolics have developed gyno due to low test levels. You have to decide how much effort you want to put into your body and how important is it to you

thankyou! right on the money!

if your serious about body building then your not gonna be a stupid ass pot head or hardcore drug user

id rather fvck hot girls then get drunk n stoned

[IronAdam]

Moderation is key with any drug, AS or marijuana. If you don't let it consume your life you'll be fine, but those with addictive personalities may want to avoid it. Simple.

[Ntpadude]

This thread is against broad rules so let it die.

On a side note let face it if weed was anabolic none of us would be here posting we would be all f'ed up.............but it's not so why smoke? JMO.

When did this happen? IN the last 2 years the discussion about other drugs has come up every 2 or 3 months and never before has anyone said anything about against the rules. It happens that you are doing a disservice to people to just shut up the subject when there are really people out there smoking pot while on roids. Anything that was to do with roids and other things people may be and ARE doing out there should be fair game for discussion. Myself I am against doing either while on a workout program but I am not for disinformation like catagorizing very slight marijuana use as being worst then smoking cigarettes or drinking beer when the evidence points to beer being in the thousands of percents worst for your health and damaging to motivation then minor marijuana use. Then you also have Arnold Swartzenager who admitted to drinking beer, smoking pot and doing cocaine - but he says he never did steroids except one doctor supervised cycle of dbol back when he was Mr Universe! What did Arnold used to say? "Milk is for babies, beer is for manly men!"

[KGBnine]

It has always been against the rules. We are already discussing AS which are illegal, there's no need to draw more attention to the board by talking about recreational drugs. Why is that so hard for some people to understand? Find a fvcking drug board if you wanna talk about it.

[BajanBastard]

When did this happen? IN the last 2 years the discussion about other drugs has come up every 2 or 3 months and never before has anyone said anything about against the rules. It happens that you are doing a disservice to people to just shut up the subject when there are really people out there smoking pot while on roids. Anything that was to do with roids and other things people may be and ARE doing out there should be fair game for discussion. Myself I am against doing either while on a workout program but I am not for disinformation like catagorizing very slight marijuana use as being worst then smoking cigarettes or drinking beer when the evidence points to beer being in the thousands of percents worst for your health and damaging to motivation then minor marijuana use. Then you also have Arnold Swartzenager who admitted to drinking beer, smoking pot and doing cocaine - but he says he never did steroids except one doctor supervised cycle of dbol back when he was Mr Universe! What did Arnold used to say? "Milk is for babies, beer is for manly men!"

It's is against board rules plain and simple. Go find some junkie board if you want to talk about it so badly. 1 beer a day has been shown to be good for your health, I can't say the same about weed. I'll say again the day weed has been shown to be anabolic . I'll be the boards biggest pot head.

[Big_Lex]

GHB has nothing anabolic in it if anything it breaks down protein in your body. Just because some 120 kg BB is drinking that poison doesnt mean hes doing it for "thermogenic or anabolic reasons" he just getting high thats all.

[Big_Lex]

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[Big Bapper]

GHB has nothing anabolic in it if anything it breaks down protein in your body. Just because some 120 kg BB is drinking that poison doesnt mean hes doing it for "thermogenic or anabolic reasons" he just getting high thats all.

GHB not Anabolic , its catabolic. I had problems with it a few years back and as Big-Lex says its poision. Far more addictive and harder to come off than weed.

[spooledup]

I've smoked every day since I was 17. When I was 17 I weighed 120lbs. Now I weigh 207@11%BF and am strong as a bitch. I'm now 42. I have engineering degrees from one of the top ten engineering schools in the southeast, and I have a rock solid 6 figure income.

Didn't affect my success at all.

Most importantly, I'm happy, and would not change a thing.

[BajanBastard]

I've smoked every day since I was 17. When I was 17 I weighed 120lbs. Now I weigh 207@11%BF and am strong as a bitch. I'm now 42. I have engineering degrees from one of the top ten engineering schools in the southeast, and I have a rock solid 6 figure income.

Didn't affect my success at all.

Most importantly, I'm happy, and would not change a thing.

Yeah that because you have your head on. So props to you. What about the countless others who are all f'ed up cuz of blazing 24/7?

[larry3436]

Yeah that because you have your head on. So props to you. What about the countless others who are all f'ed up cuz of blazing 24/7?

if your an idiot your an idiot.....weed isnt going to turn you into 1 .

[KGBnine]

if your an idiot your an idiot.....weed isnt going to turn you into 1 .

Weed turns many people into lazy, unmotivated slugs. I've had many a friend go down that road.

[Phatgirl]

The thing that people dont understand i guess is this . I smoke....other people who use AS smoke....and when we say this we get classified in the "smoke 24/7 loser pothead" category .

If you smoke all day every day....your probably going nowhere . Same thing for alcohol....if you drink all day every day . I think its safe to say a beer with dinner is ok . So i a puff before bed .

[IronReload04]

any time you smoke weed your blood vessels coagulate meaning less blood flows through them

meaning less nutrients go through them

meaning it hurts your gains!

you wont get as strong!

i just cought that. actually the opposite is true. weed has a vasodilation effect. it expands blood vessels, mnore blood flow, and it opens up the lungs too

[KGBnine]

Good job bumping this old thread. THreads like these never go anywhere, so just let it die.

[superchump]

depends on how it affects you. personally i get incredible energy/ paranoid and this has put me thru some really focused workouts. i heard robby robinson always smoked a joint before training and talked to a few other guys who liked it before training and they were built too. id say its affect on your muscles is zero but its smoke in your lungs which is bad. if you dont need it dont do it.

[nsa]

No recreational drug talk, what?

[Ntpadude]

It can raise estrogen levels and lower test levels slightly. Continue doing what you like to do but I would not start a habbit over the few pro's if any that you hear on this thread...That being said, I'm taking myself and my O of KB out to lunch

I was just reading a study on this cool british web site where they gave the study participants 600 mg of testosterone per week. Then they did blood tests in week #8 and sampled the estrogen levels. Then during week #9, half the dudes did not smoke pot, the other half had to smoke 6 joints a day of the very strongest pot they could find in Holland for 2 weeks, then after the 2 weeks resampled the blood tests. They found absolutely no difference in estrogen levels between the dudes that did not smoke pot and the ones that did smoke pot. Similar Cambridge University studies did however show that marijuana lowers testosterone production but its just as temporary as the effects of steroids on the body. The conclusion of the test which included 80 participants was marijuana had no influence at all on aromatase activity.

[AnabolBoy]

weed can help when used in moderation.

[EatRite]

this thread needs to die...

no rec drugs

[BDTR]

Rec drug discussion is against board rules. End of topic.