whats the deal with fina and gyno???

**mmhhmm** · 01-21-2005, 09:54 PM

i'am considering using fina on my next cycle, i have read on many educational posts that fina does not convert into estrogen. but then i read people getting gyno and blaming it on fina. so how the hell does this happen?? just tryin to clear this up before i actually purchase. thanx!!

**mmhhmm** · 01-21-2005, 10:23 PM

anyone???

**Tose22** · 01-21-2005, 10:46 PM

i have a lump in my right chest the size of a pee, i took a tren only cycle two years ago when i was very educated and crashed really hard after 8 weeks, but here is a nice post be Pheedno that you should read..... Progesterone induced gynecomastia? Don't think so

**mmhhmm** · 01-22-2005, 01:58 AM

i also read that finaplix -H does not convert into estroge, but other forms do. can anybody help me out???

**almostgone** · 01-22-2005, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by mmhhmm

i also read that finaplix-H does not convert into estroge, but other forms do. can anybody help me out???

use 200mg of B6 ED or .25mg Dostinex(cabergoline) E4D to keep the prolactin levels down..You will still need to run some form of test with fina( run it @ a higher dosage than the fina and for approx. 2 weeks past the fina)..And you'll need Nolva and letroxole/ L-dex to handle the gyno symptoms related to testosterone usage....Read up real well before running fina...it's good stuff, but it's pretty harsh....Drink approx. 1.5 gallons water ED, take milk thistle for liver health and cranberry extract or uva ursi for kidney protection ....

***BajanBastard*** · 01-22-2005, 09:35 AM

Letrozole will effectively combat the estrogen/progesterone gyno (both are linked).

***SV-1*** · 01-22-2005, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Letrozole will effectively combat the estrogen/progesterone gyno (both are linked).

Don't be so sure. When I ran a test/tren cycle I was taking 1mg of femara, 10mg of nolva, and 200mg of B6 ED... and I got gyno (including lactating nips). Thank God I had bromo on hand to stop it.

If you're going to run tren take at least 200mg of B6 ED, and be sure to have either dostinex or bromo on hand in case that doesn't work.

Better safe than sorry.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-23-2005, 12:15 AM

The nolva you were taking reduced the effectiveness of the letro. Nolva also can increase Progesterone receptors.

You should have used more letro.

**mmhhmm** · 01-23-2005, 03:43 AM

thanx for the advice guys. i think i will run letro and B6 through the whole cycle. and start nolva at the end once i get off of it. can u explain a lil more on dostinex not exactly sure what it does? not gettin much when i search. thanx!

**almostgone** · 01-23-2005, 06:36 AM

***SV-1*** · 01-23-2005, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

The nolva you were taking reduced the effectiveness of the letro. Nolva also can increase Progesterone receptors.

You should have used more letro.

Even with a 40% reduction 1mg ED is plenty. Many take 1mg EOD or less.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-23-2005, 11:00 AM

Depends on the person. Look at it, you reduced the letro by 37% then coupled with a progesterone receptor up regulator you increased you chances of gyno.

Another thing estrogen can cause the mammary gland to grow as well so it could have been estrogen. I still think you should have used more letro.